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To: AnalogReigns; Gamecock
All Roman Catholic principalities throughout the Middle Ages and Renaissance period had laws against heresy

And in Protestant countries, they prosecuted Catholicism as "treason," whether or not any actual treason took place. (My namesake, St. Edmund Campion, swore his loyalty to Elizabeth I at his trial "in all matters save religion". He was executed as a "traitor" anyway.)

Although the law was not actively enforced, it was a capital offense to be a Catholic in Sweden until well into the 19th Century.

Calling someone a "traitor" and killing them because you reject their religion is not any more admirable than calling them a "heretic" and killing them because you reject their religion, is it?

What's even more offensive to me is that we're having this conversation at all, given the larger events that we're watching. I guess perhaps soon we'll have the same discussion over our bowls of fish and cockroach soup in the barracks at the concentration camp, in between having the snot beaten out of us by the Obama SS.

Perhaps then we'll start to come to the realization that we have more to gain by treating each other like brothers and sisters than by picking fights over 500-year-old grudges.

138 posted on 10/15/2008 9:46:39 PM PDT by Campion
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To: Campion; Quix
Seems to me there is a significant difference between being executed by a secular leader masquerading as the head of a church and the wholesale slaughter of "heretics" sanctioned by Rome.

I guess perhaps soon we'll have the same discussion over our bowls of fish and cockroach soup in the barracks at the concentration camp, in between having the snot beaten out of us by the Obama SS.

Yup. We are promised it will happen, so get used to the idea.

140 posted on 10/15/2008 9:54:41 PM PDT by Gamecock (Sadistic preachers don't talk about Hell.)
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To: Campion
than by picking fights over 500-year-old grudges.

I don't have a grudge from events of 700+ years ago (the popes listed here) the problem I have is that much of MODERN Roman Catholic theology is based on a supposed history of uninterrupted aposotlic (godly) authority...which at the top, anyhow, in Medieval times, is demonstrably false. Surely there were many godly popes...but also more than a few stinkers.

I believe in miracles though--and I trust in God's providence, whoever is elected. Perhaps a liberal now, with the horrible long-term repercussions politically, would be enough to shock America to wake up and repent.

171 posted on 10/16/2008 8:27:56 AM PDT by AnalogReigns
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