Reformation Month Ping
Lorraine Boettner’s book has been shown even by non-Catholics with a shred of objectivity to be a stinking pile of lies.
I have rarely seen so many lies and misrepresentations packed into so concise a piece of writing. The author rivals Alfred Rosenberg in skill.
It’s amazing that after two thousand years of history there is so little fault that can be attributed to the Catholic Church.
While Puritanism, Calvinism, and countless heresies have seen a rise and fall that have brought so much calamity to humanity.
G-d bless, Pope Benedict XVI, and thank you for gracing us with his Holiness John Paul II.
Go in peace to love and serve the Lord, friend.
Anti-Catholic bigotry bookmark.
Anti-Catholic bigotry bookmark.
I’ll say the Rosary for you.
Blessed John XXIII was a former pirate? Who are you kidding?
When you find a church on this planet without sinners, then ping us. That would be newsworthy.
Ahh.....it amuses this Italian to no end that our Anglo-American Protestant friends find such giddy, quasi-pornographic delight in uncovering the Secret Lives of the Popes! OOOH....looky here....this one put a dead guy on trial....this one had a mistress!!!
Listen up and listen good. Ain’t no one. And I mean NO ONE on this earth who knows the shenanigans and the intrigues and the sordid details of the Papacy better than us Italians. You folks read it in the history books, put your hands to your mouth and utter a demure little “oh my!”. We had to actually put up with this crap for a thousand years. Ain’t no scandal you can uncover, ain’t no bastard you can unmask, ain’t no mistress or sordid affair you can blow the lid off that we didn’t know about 200 years before it squirreled its way into your little books there.
You wanna talk papal shenanigans, then get off the podium, take a seat at the back of the classroom and we’ll take you to school.
But let’s not stop there though. Let’s tell the whole story—the parts of the story that Luther, that Calvin, that Boettner conveniently ignore. Because we Italians also know darn well that some of the most saintly men and women who have ever walked this earth loved this institution of the Papacy, protected it, defended it, honored it, and humbly obeyed it. Some of them even served in it. Why is that? Why did a man like St. Francis, who had more divine humility in his little fingernail than the insufferably proud Luther and Calvin could ever dream of, kneel at the foot of Innocent III and pledge his obedience? If the Pope is the Antichrist, then that makes St. Francis his faithful servant, and that, my friends, is the moment we veer off into complete insanity. Because if your conception of Christianity can’t include St. Francis, then I don’t know what religion you are in but it’s not the one that Christ Jesus founded.
Finally, let none of us be so ignorant of human nature to imagine that a reprobate who holds the office invalidates the office itself. If Alexander VI is our reason for rejecting the Papacy, then very well, let Bill Clinton or a President Obama be our rationale for rejecting the Presidency. Let’s stop voting. Declare ourselves in secession. Go off and write our own Constitution, and do in the secular sphere what some seem to advocate in the religious.
The analogy is that flawed. It’s that dumb. If the Roman See was set up by Divine Right, then by Divine Right it endures till the end of time I don’t care what miserable wretch holds the post and what he does to abuse it. Because what God has created man has not the power to destroy.
Here is some of what he said in that booklet: As a student in Roman Catholic parochial schools for twelve years, two of which were mentored by priests for entry into the seminary, it was taught me that a pope cannot possibley be in error when teaching matters of faith handed down to the church. The reason given to me concerning this, and to put it in simple language, was that any Pope is "infallible" in matters of faith and morals because he is a successor of the Apostle Peter. To back this up, many claims were put forth. But as I advanced in age and in the study of religious history, many of the things I had been taught as the truth then proved to be as false as saying the moon was made of cheeze. A simple once-over glance through the teachings and the lives of the popes is enough to show any student the ridiculouseness of papal infallibility concerning matters of faith, much less morality.
Because information on the errors of some of the popes in matters concerning faith is virtually suppressed, and not allowed to be discussed in Roman Catholic Schools, and because the history courses taught to me were incomplete, I was forced, if I wanted to continue in a Religious History Major, to do research outside of the realms controlled by the Roman Catholic Authorities. Here is a brief look at what came to light: and from suppressed Roman Catholic sources at that!
Liberius (Pope? 352-366 AD), who is declared a saint of the Church, confessed to a heretical Arian Creed in order to gain the bishoprick of Rome under the rule of the pagan Emperor Constantius. He disagreed with and condemned Deacon Athanasius, the defender of the Nicene Creed, who also wrote that Liberius was a great opponent to the truth. Here is a Pope(?) - I question the title because it ws not in use as it was used starting in 610 AD and today - whose greed caused him to accept a heretical Creed of Faith; and shows us that some popes were not infallible concerning matters of faith that we must believe.
Zozimus (Pope? 417=-418 AD), a bishop of Rome during the time of the Great Augustine (a church father), was quick to pronounce Pelagius an orthodox teacher, but within a year changed his mind at the insistence of Augustine. Here is a pope, and a saint of the Church of Rome, being corrected in matters of fatih by a North African clergyman! Where is infallibiliby of the popes shown here?
Vigilius, who reigned in Rome as its bishop for 18 years (Pope? 538-555), condemned certain books teaching matters of faith, then shortly thereafter removed his condemnation. But this was not the end of the matter, for again he condemned these same books and again retracted his condemnation. The finally condemned them again! To me, he was very unsettled as far as being infallible in matters of faith, and didn't know what he was doing! To top this off, he boycotted the fifth Ecumenical Council of Constantinople in 553 AD. When the Counsil proceeded without him and threatened to have him excommunicated and anathematized, he submitted to its power and confessed that he had been a tool of Satan (See Hefele, one of the best known Roman Catholic Historians, in his book, History of the Christian Councils, Vol. 4, page 345).
.........Ken, in that booklet, goes on and lists many more popes who were in error concerning articles of faith, which shows that they were not infallible at all. I won't go into them all because that would be redundant. As Ken said, if I remember correctly, quaerenda pecunia primum est, virtus post nummos -literally, let's keep our eye on the bottom line - infallibility is aegri somnia - a sick man's dreams!
It's too bad Ken refuses to take part in this topic, but I don't really blame him.
Triple Goddess
Diana-Phoebe-Hecate
The Three Maries (of the sea)
Triple Goddess Ngame
Roman
Juno-Jupiter-Minerva
The Persian Triad
Greek
Athena-Zeus-Hera
and of course
The Three Bears
Three Blind Mice
The Three Little Pigs
And I would have included The Marx Brothers and the Three Stooges but theyre Jewish and as such they know better.
M