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To: Soliton; grey_whiskers; NYer; shroudie
The samples tested in 1988 were not adjacent to the Raes sample. The Ricci sample was and the Vatican still has it.

I love the irony when your linked proof of your false assertion article disproves your assertion:

The Shroud of Turin Samples

The samples distributed to each of the labs involved in the testing were extracted from a corner of the Shroud of Turin directly adjacent to the site of a previous sampling done in 1973 to determine the nature of the Shroud textile - the Raes sample. The original sample extracted measured ~81mm x 21mm and weighed ~478.1mg. Since this sample contained stitching and remnant strands from the previous textile sampling, an ~ 5mm portion of the sample was trimmed from the stitched side, thus removing the stitching and shredded sample remnants. This process resulted in a sample that measured ~81mm x 16mm with a mass of ~ 300.0mg. This sample had one corner that contained a roughly triangle-shaped missing portion that was a residual of the Raes sample extraction. The resulting areal fabric density determined after taking this corner into account was estimated to be ~ 24.1mg/cm2.

The very first sentence in the very first paragraph disproves your claim. Ironic. Do you have difficulty in reading... or is just comprehending what you read?
74 posted on 09/28/2008 7:05:24 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Swordmaker; Soliton; dascallie
Do you have difficulty in reading... or is just comprehending what you read?

The problem is that he is much smarter than us. He'll tell you, just ask him.

76 posted on 09/28/2008 7:09:48 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Swordmaker

Bwahahahahaha, I see you’ve met the singular wave.


77 posted on 09/28/2008 7:11:10 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Swordmaker
The samples distributed to each of the labs involved in the testing were extracted from a corner of the Shroud of Turin directly adjacent to the site of a previous sampling done in 1973 to determine the nature of the Shroud textile - the Raes sample.

You really don't know this stuff do you? The 1988 sample was directly adjacent to the Raes sample, BUT IT WAS CUT IN HALF. The piece that was kept was the Riggi sample. IT was the piece that was next to Raes. The pieces c-14 tested were on the opposite side of the Riggi sample from Raes. So the piece ACTUALLY TESTED was NOT adjacent to Raes. Look at a map of the samples and you will see that I am correct. The Raes Sample was from 1972, The Riggi sample from 1988. Only materials from the STURP tape tests of 1978 were supposed to be in circulation.

September 1995: Cardinal Saldarini issues statement declaring any Shroud samples in circulation other than those taken with official permission for the tests of 1978 as unauthorized. He remarks that 'if such material exists…the Holy See has not given its permission to anybody to keep it and do what they want with it' and he requests those concerned to give the piece back to the Holy See. This statement seems clearly to be directed at the samples taken by Professor Giovanni Riggi in April 1988, portions from which were procured in all good faith by Dr. Garza-Valdes. http://www.shroud.com/history.htm

89 posted on 09/28/2008 10:32:22 PM PDT by Soliton (> 100)
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