You haven't the foggiest clue about what you are talking about and now you choose to insult me in a field that most on FreeRepublic would consider me an expert. Soliton, you are a dilettante.So far you have not provided ANY proof of your claims. No citations. You merely bluster and toss out insults to people who cannot defend themselves or their reputations. You provide no proof of your claims. You merely throw out an asssertion and then ignore the rebuttals.
You are not, and never have been, interested in science of discussion. You are an Atheist defending your faith. Your purpose on this thread is to throw brickbats and dung at fellow freepers and to slur and denigrate qualified scientists by citing falsehoods.
The 1988 sample was directly adjacent to the Raes sample, BUT IT WAS CUT IN HALF. The piece that was kept was the Riggi sample. The pieces c-14 tested were on the opposite side of the Riggi sample from Raes. IT was the piece that was next to Raes. So the piece ACTUALLY TESTED was NOT adjacent to Raes. Look at a map of the samples and you will see that I am correct. The Raes Sample was from 1972, The Riggi sample from 1988.
You really DON'T comprehend what you read! Amazing. You are not correct.The Raes sample ran almost the entire length of the C14 sample. While approximately two tenths of an inch were trimmed from the upper segment of the C14 sample, the entire sample was cut adjacent to the missing area taken by Raes in 1973. These two tenths were cut because Professor Riggi saw "contaminating red threads" in that portion of the sample and trimmed them out. Don't you think that should have raised a red flag?
I will post, again, the quotation from YOUR source, the source that printed your sample maps. This is the VERY FIRST SENTENCE, in the VERY FIRST PARAGRAPH!
"The samples distributed to each of the labs involved in the testing were extracted from a corner of the Shroud of Turin directly adjacent to the site of a previous sampling done in 1973 to determine the nature of the Shroud textile - the Raes sample.Can you READ the part I have put into bold? The part that explains exactly where the C14 sample was cut is directly adjacent (having a common vertex and a common side - Geometry) to the Raes Sample, cut in 1973, not 1972.
In addition, the 1988 C14 master sample was cut into more half. It was cut into FIVE PIECES as well as the 0.2" side piece that was trimmed off (and also retained!). The Arizona C14 Lab received TWO pieces. One from the end away from the selvage and another from right next to the selvage. All of the pieces were adjacent to the 1973 Raes sample area.
The following image is also from YOUR sample map source (in this graphic, the Raes sample would have been above the area depicted):
Note the inset comment: "An additional segment with a mass of ~14.1mg was provided to the Arizona lab from the 154.9mg Shroud segment." That segment, a sub-sample, taken from the 154.9mg master sample left a 140.8mg segment of the original master sample UNDISTRIBUTED! It is possession of the Custodian of the Shroud of Turin. That 140.8mg segment still exists and was retained as a control sample and it is from this piece that Raymond Rogers received a few warp and woof threads ON REQUEST from the Custodian of the Shroud.
I have never seen this segment ever referred to as the "Riggi sample." It is has been merely referred to as a sub-sample of the original master sample taken for the 1988 C14 tests. In addition, you first referred to the "Ricci sample" in your Reply Post 57. Msgn. Giulio Ricci, the Vatican Archivist (not Professor Giovanni Riggi Numana—the man who cut the 1988 C14 sample from the Shroud), did indeed pluck some threads from the Shroud. Now you confabulate the retained portion of the C14 sample as something you imply is a distinct, separate sample called the "Riggi sample." It is not. It is merely part of the 1988 C14 sample cutting.
Only materials from the STURP tape tests of 1978 were supposed to be in circulation.
Not true. Where did you get that piece of misinformation? The Raes Samples, the blood stained threads taken for the Italian study, plus sticky tape samples taken by Max Frei before the STURP examination, and additional samples taken during the 2002 "restoration" of the Shroud are currently in circulation. In addition, other samples held by the Shroud's custodian can be requested for study.You apparently have no knowledge about the samples. I have described the samples, their positioning, and location to you before. You are merely repeating back to me things I have posted to you before and changing small things that you think you know as if they make some kind of difference.