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Political trivia: Name the excommunicated Catholic running on the national ticket
star ledger ^ | 09.12.08 | paul mulshine

Posted on 09/21/2008 9:45:44 PM PDT by Coleus

In a prior post, I asked readers to guess the one Catholic ever named to a national Republican ticket. The answer was William Miller, running mate to the great Barry Goldwater in the 1964 race.   Here's another political trivia question with a religious link. Name the contender in this year's race who is technically excommunicated from the Catholic Church.

ANSWER: According to the website of the Global Catholic Network the answer seems to be Palin. The site states that "once a person willingly repudiates Christ, embraces a heresy, knowing it to be contrary to divine and Catholic faith, or refuses submission to the Roman Pontiff (or communion with the members of the Church subject to him), by virtue of the law itself they are automatically excommunicated. No ecclesiastical act is necessary and no public notice."

Palin was baptized Catholic according to the McCain campaign. Her abandonment of Catholicism and subsequent attendance at other churches that question Catholic orthodoxy seems to fit this definition of heresy:

"Heresy is the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same ..."

As for Biden, he's close to the edge but seems not to have gone over it. He has been warned about his behavior in failing to endorse legislation to outlaw abortion, but he has not been formally excommunicated.

Another trivia question: What other reported finalist for the Republican vice-presidential nomination also meets the above definition for self-excommunication from the Catholic Church?


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1 posted on 09/21/2008 9:45:44 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: Coleus

I guess I am a heretic as well as I was baptized as a catholic when I was born. (complications so I guess it was also last rites)


2 posted on 09/21/2008 9:50:06 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: Coleus

Since her parents took her out of the Church at age 12, I think there is diminished responsibility than if an adult were to leave the Church.


3 posted on 09/21/2008 9:50:27 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Coleus

She’s more of a Catholic than Biden. Biden excommunicates himself for supporting infanticide.


4 posted on 09/21/2008 9:54:41 PM PDT by SMCC1
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To: Coleus

What is the point of this article?


5 posted on 09/21/2008 9:56:34 PM PDT by Silly (www.QuestionOthority.com)
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To: Coleus
I could swear I read something like this about some other prominent Republican in the last 5 years.

Better an ex-Catholic than a current moron.

6 posted on 09/21/2008 9:59:58 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Fearing an Obama planet :()
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To: Silly

The stealth point seems to be damaging her reputation with Catholics and making Biden not seem so apostate. It won’t work.


7 posted on 09/21/2008 10:16:50 PM PDT by Weirdad (A Free Republic, not a "democracy" (mob rule))
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To: Coleus
Typical smear by clueless leftist.

The website of Global Catholic Network says absolutely nothing about Sarah Palin. The page linked in the article is nothing more than a discussion of Church teachings.

Apparently though, Paul Mulshine has taken it upon himself to speak for the Catholic Church as to whether Sarah Palin has been excommunicated or not, based upon a website on the internet.

I think Paul Mulshine should let the Church hierarchy speak on matters related to Governor Palin’s alleged excommunication. And as a matter of fact, I'm almost positive that the Church hierarchy has nothing to say about Governor Palin because she is no longer a practicing Catholic, and hasn't been since she was a child.

So Paul Mulshine should just shut his yap about something he knows nothing about, and on an issue upon which he has no authority to speak.

8 posted on 09/21/2008 10:19:36 PM PDT by mojito
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To: Coleus
When a child is baptized into any religion when under the age of reason, how can they be required to adhere to that religion when they disagree with it upon reaching adulthood?

I'm reminded, in some way, of FLDS polygamists who MUST agree with the every word of their "so-called" prophet.

In either case, freedom of intelligent thought is denied.

9 posted on 09/21/2008 10:21:24 PM PDT by IIntense (o)
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WHAT in the h e double toothpicks is Paul Mulshine's PROBLEM?? First, he whacks on Sarah's grammar here, then comes over here and bellyaches because she isn't a Catholic any more?

Sounds like the girlie-man has had a bad day. Gads.

10 posted on 09/21/2008 10:24:19 PM PDT by redhead (Wasilla is finally on the map...and we are NOT happy about it.)
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To: LukeL

What a hit piece. A celebrity no less stellar than Princess Grace of Monaco once stated “As a Christian I believe I’ve improved over the years...I may not be the best Catholic.”


11 posted on 09/21/2008 10:25:20 PM PDT by pray4liberty (It's the smile that keeps me out of trouble.)
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To: Coleus

Who is this piehole, and why should we care what he thinks about Sarah Palin?

Sowing division among brothers is something that God hates, and the last thing we need right now are Christians fighting over doctrine.


12 posted on 09/21/2008 10:28:33 PM PDT by Prospero (non est ad astra mollis e terris via)
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To: Coleus

Is this really smart of the Star-Trib to publish? Being in the heart of Lutheran country and all?


13 posted on 09/21/2008 10:30:39 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Coleus

What is this guys problem? This is the second inane, nitpicking piece he has written about Gov. Palin.


14 posted on 09/21/2008 10:30:55 PM PDT by Bubbette
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To: Silly
The point? The point is that quite a number of moonbats get paid by the word.

Osamabama was born a Muslim, correct (the father's faith determines the son's in Islam)?

Muslims who abandon Islam are, and always have been for 13 centuries, subject to sanctions and/or 'fatwas' from the mullahs. No exception is made for 'childhood' abadonment of 'The Faith'.

Osamabama makes much of his presumptive 'Christian' faith. He has, by his own testimony, abandoned Islam and, as such, is an apostate in the eyes of Islam.

Islam has not sanctioned Osamabama in any fashion.

Therefore, assuming only that Islam is consistent in its practice regarding apostates, he is still a Muslim, but pretending not to be, and is practicing taqqiyah, the Islamic instruction to deceive the infidel in the name of the Faith.

Any Islamists here care to argue with the reasoning above?

15 posted on 09/21/2008 10:57:06 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: Coleus
This is the second article I've read today by this guy and the second is as idiotic as the first ! Who is this 'maroon'? Something about this guy reminds me of the term, 'bag of a**holes'.

Nam Vet

16 posted on 09/21/2008 11:02:46 PM PDT by Nam Vet ("Erin Go Bragh", declares Democrat hopeful Barry Finnegan O'Bama)
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To: Coleus

This is the 2nd column by the same author running the thrads now. He seems not to like Gov. Palin.

When one thinks of it, if her parents left the Catholic Church when she was 12, that would be 32 years ago, coinciding with the effects of the Vatican Council 2 which was something of an abomination to traditional Catholics.


17 posted on 09/21/2008 11:09:21 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Silly; Coleus; xzins; P-Marlowe; Alex Murphy; Dr. Eckleburg; Quix; Forest Keeper

Perhaps someone from DU hacked Coleus’s FR account and want to discredit Palin among FR Catholics by pointing out that Sarah is a heretic, just like the rest of Biblical Christianity?


18 posted on 09/21/2008 11:11:15 PM PDT by Gamecock (Life is to short for bad theology.)
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To: Coleus; Silly; xzins; P-Marlowe; Alex Murphy; Dr. Eckleburg; Quix; Forest Keeper; Gamecock; ...
Does this mean when a dead Catholic has been baptized by proxy by the Mormon Church, that they are officially members of the LDS Church whether they have consented to that baptism or not?

So, would you say that once a dead Catholic has been baptized into the LDS Church by some pimply faced Mormon in a Mormon Temple, do they then fit your definition of a heretic?

19 posted on 09/21/2008 11:20:53 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe

Posts like this just show the rampant hatred of the Proddie Bashers(TM) here on FR.


20 posted on 09/21/2008 11:30:29 PM PDT by Gamecock (Life is to short for bad theology.)
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