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America's Founding Values
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 | Jon Rowe
Posted on 08/24/2008 10:13:21 AM PDT by Jon Rowe
It's often said that America was founded on "Judeo-Christian" values.
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    It's often said that America was founded on "Judeo-Christian" values. This statement is somewhat fairer and more accurate than "America was founded as a 'Christian Nation.'" However, left alone, it still is not entirely accurate and has the effect of trying to exclude those of us who aren't Bible believing Christians or Jews from America's heritage. On the other hand those who argue America was intended to be a wholly secular Enlightenment nation distort history just as much. The truth is somewhere in between: America was founded on a confluence of three value systems, and as such was founded to be a pluralistic nation within the confines of the American Creed -- the Declaration of Independence (which in turn was constructed from those three value systems). 
So what are those three systems? One is indeed biblical Judeo-Christianity. The second is Enlightenment rationalism. And the third is a "noble-paganism," a Stoic sense of virtue that draws its inspiration from Greco-Roman antiquity. As Thomas Jefferson summed up the value synthesis regarding its inspiration on the Declaration of Independence: 
"All its authority rests then on the harmonizing sentiments of the day, whether expressed in conversation, in letters, printed essays, or in the elementary books of public right, as Aristotle, Cicero, Locke, Sidney, &c. ..." 
In that letter Jefferson also said: "All American Whigs thought alike on these subjects." It was the Whigs who synthesized these value systems into their own "Whig-republican" culture or worldview.... 
[To read the rest see here: 
http://americancreation.blogspot.com/2008/08/americas-founding-values.html]
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posted on 
08/24/2008 10:13:21 AM PDT
by 
Jon Rowe
 
To: Jon Rowe
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posted on 
08/24/2008 11:14:19 AM PDT
by 
BykrBayb
(We're a non Soros non lefitst supporting maverick Gang of 3, who won't be voting for McCain. ~ Þ)
 
To: Jon Rowe
    America was founded Judeo Christian, PERIOD! 
 IBTZ!
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posted on 
08/24/2008 11:28:51 AM PDT
by 
mainestategop
(MAINE: The way communism should be)
 
To: Jon Rowe; Darkshear; darkwing104; Admin Moderator
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posted on 
08/24/2008 11:31:09 AM PDT
by 
mainestategop
(MAINE: The way communism should be)
 
To: Jon Rowe
To: Jon Rowe
    "Except the Lord build the house, They labor in vain who build it." "I firmly believe this." Benjamin Franklin, 1787, Constitutional Convention
 
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posted on 
08/24/2008 11:38:20 AM PDT
by 
Uri’el-2012
(Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
 
To: Jon Rowe
     "The highest story of the American Revolution is this: it connected in one indissoluble bond the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity." President John Adams
 
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posted on 
08/24/2008 11:39:42 AM PDT
by 
Uri’el-2012
(Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
 
To: Jon Rowe; Old Sarge
    in after the ZOT
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posted on 
08/24/2008 11:40:36 AM PDT
by 
darkangel82
(If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
 
To: Jon Rowe
    Don't you hate it when you're standing under a tree for shade and a bird craps right on your head? And you've got bird guano running down your forehead and it's all gross? And nothing handy to wipe if off with? 
 I hate that.
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posted on 
08/24/2008 11:43:44 AM PDT
by 
Allegra
(It's above my pay grade.)
 
To: Jon Rowe
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posted on 
08/24/2008 11:45:33 AM PDT
by 
rottndog
(Government is a necessary evil, but as with all evils, the less of it the better.)
 
To: Jon Rowe
    Your mistake is separating them out. You can't.
 Faith in Christ and Christianity was the foundation. Reason, attributed mistakenly to the enlightenment, was the tool they used (Reason and logic being integral to the reading and education they received. When citing ancient philosophers you cut the core of your argument out) Finally that ancient and contemporary philosophy you cite was used to build the frame on their moral bedrock of Christian principles.
 A group of Christian men under the framework of Christianity constructed a secular government. It is correct to say the United States was founded on Judeo-Christian values.
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posted on 
08/24/2008 11:51:26 AM PDT
by 
IrishCatholic
(No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
 
To: Jon Rowe; All
    WOOOOO YEAH!! MY FIRST IBTZ! EVER!

 
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posted on 
08/24/2008 11:52:41 AM PDT
by 
mainestategop
(MAINE: The way communism should be)
 
To: Religion Moderator
    You have an Islamikitty on staff? Wow.
 
To: Jon Rowe
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posted on 
08/24/2008 12:20:44 PM PDT
by 
Delta 21
( MKC USCG - ret)
 
To: Jon Rowe
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08/24/2008 12:24:41 PM PDT
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TEXOKIE
 
To: TEXOKIE
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posted on 
08/24/2008 1:07:15 PM PDT
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mainestategop
(MAINE: The way communism should be)
 
To: Jon Rowe
    The Judeo-Christian logical chain of natural law begins with mans God-created essence, moves to the ends God proposed for him, and from that to what God wants man to do, namely, to mans duties. Once it has been shown that we have the duty to preserve our lives, it is easy to deduce that we have the right to preserve them. 
 Self-evident axioms are recognized by a form of reason which Locke called intuitive reason. A second form of reason, which Locke called discursive reason was used to deduce theorems from them. 
 American revolutionaries who agreed with this and accepted some truths as self-evident and then reached conclusions about rights, were products of the Age of Reason and the age of Enlightenment
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posted on 
08/24/2008 2:46:29 PM PDT
by 
mjp
(Live & let live. I don't want to live in Mexico, Marxico, or Muslimico. Statism & high taxes suck)
 
To: Jon Rowe; timpad; TBarnett34; MeekOneGOP; PetroniDE; Lady Jag; mhking; glock rocks; Darksheare; ...
    Next! 




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posted on 
08/25/2008 2:53:25 PM PDT
by 
darkwing104
(Lets get dangerous)
 
To: Jon Rowe
    Thanks for posting the article.
As far as being a ZOT article, I’m not sure.
It gets points for spelling, grammar, punctuation, and paragraph breaks.
 
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posted on 
08/25/2008 2:56:28 PM PDT
by 
UCANSEE2
(Master of Satire, Slave to Stupidity)
 
To: darkwing104
    Piling on after the ZOT!
  
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posted on 
08/25/2008 2:56:30 PM PDT
by 
ConorMacNessa
(HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN 1969.  St. Peregrine, patron saint of cancer patients, pray for us.)
 
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