Posted on 08/23/2008 3:36:23 PM PDT by NYer
The CIA World Factbook indictates that about 3% to 4% of all the population in China are Christians.[29] Independent estimates have ranged from 40 million[27], to 100 million[30], or even 130 million Christians in January 2007 (out of a total population of at least 1.3 billion people).[31][32]
In October 2007 two surveys were conducted to estimate the number of Christians in China. One poll was held by Protestant missionary Werner Burklin, the other one by Liu Zhongyu from East China Normal University in Shanghai. The surveys were conducted independently and during different periods, but they reached the same results.[10][11] According to these studies, there are roughly 54 million Christians in China, of which 39 million are Protestants and 14 million are Catholics as the most common and reliable figure among others.[10][11]
From Wikipedia.
The scripture is the final authority. Do you disagree with that notion?
Have you ever seen this? - http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/martyrs/index.htm
Were you to understand what the true keys of the kingdom are, and what the true kingdom is, perhaps you would realize how erroneous the RCC interpretation of Matt. 16:18 is.
The Augustinian Amillennialist “kingdom” of Roman Catholicism, the paganized pseudo-Christian tyrant called the RCC that ruled the dark ages - aptly named - most certainly is not the kingdom that Christ spoke of.
Moreover, the paganized pseudo-Christian impostor “Holy Father” ruling from his throne in Rome throughout the dark ages, guilty of the most heinous crimes in the name of Christ, most certainly did not then and does not now have the keys Christ spoke of.
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Religious Wars thread....
Never mind......
oh cmon its been fun aside from the insult to my mother. Some rational discussion would be appreciated.
You wrote:
“You get real, you accused non-Catholic Christians of being apostates and then claimed not to be judging Protestants.”
No, I did not. I said: “Since Protestantism came 1500 years after Christ IT must be apostate Christianity.”
Notice, I said Protestantism is apostate Christianity. I never once, EVER, anywhere said that modern day Protestants were either apostates or responsible for the errors of their heretical and schismatic Protestant forefathers. Why is it that so many Protestants struggle to read basic English? Notice how I even wrote “IT” in caps? I was as clear as could be and yet you erroneously wrote: “you accused non-Catholic Christians of being apostates and then claimed not to be judging Protestants.”
Wow, you’re not doing too well here. Pay attention.
“That makes you dishonest hence my last post calling you a troll. Strawmans and arguing in circles is not debate.”
1) I made no strawmen.
2) I was right in what I said and you were the one who falsely said I said something I NEVER EVER SAID ANYWHERE IN MY ENTIRE LIFE.
3) I never argue in circles.
4) Don’t make up things I never said.
“The church he created did have a lot to do with joy in worship. The things many protestants do are to bring joy to people and help to support the Great Commission of spreading his word to non-believers. As long as it is Biblical (aka the Word) then its is within the bounds of Gods law.”
Schism, apostasy, and rebellion are not within the bounds of God’s law. Neither are sectarianism, sola scriptura, sola fide, or other novel Protestant doctrines.
Apologize for insulting my mother and I’ll have a rational discourse with you.
You wrote:
“Yes that confirms it. You can’t even apologize for calling all non-catholics apostate and then you insult my mother.”
1) I never called all non-Catholics apostates so there’s no reason to apologize. I already demonstrated this fact DEFINITIVELY in the last post.
2) You insulted me by calling me a troll when I am not one. I showed you how foolish that is by sarcastically bringing up your mother. See how that worked? How’d that work out for ya’?
“You are slime and if you are indicative of what Catholics are then you do far more to drive people away from salvation.”
Again, you insult me. Personal insults won’t help your failing case.
Oh, and remember, you were completely wrong about what I said about apostate Protestantism and you misrepresented what I said.
Case closed.
You wrote:
“Apologize for insulting my mother and I’ll have a rational discourse with you.”
1) You insulted me first, so you must apologize first.
2) You must admit you were wrong in calling me a troll and in falsely saying I said something I never said - and you must be explicit about what it is that I said and did not say.
3) Do this and you will prove to be desrving of an apology from me.
The ball is in your court.
There is only one Christian Church and it was founded by our Lord Jesus Christ. His Church subsists as the Roman Catholic church.
Although they would deny it, Protestant ecclesial communities derive any spiritual good they may possess from the Roman Catholic church. It is a historical fact that the first Protestants were in fact Catholics who changed the Faith into something more acceptable to their intellect or sensibilities. This adjustment of the faith to suit personal tastes continues to haunt Christians as we are in a very much weakened position to be a leaven to society.
Though again they would deny it, the Pope is still the leader and teacher of all who call themselves Christians; obviously Protestants do not recognize this claim but at least some do show respect to our Holy Father.
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