[stfassisi]

I felt the need to posts this in light of the upcoming Olympic games .

The greed of american corporations has allowed this country to gain power by looking the other way!

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[driftdiver]

“The greed of american corporations has allowed this country to gain power by looking the other way! “

Don’t forget the consumers that can’t get enough of “china prices” for crap they dont really need.

[nmh]

The Dying Rooms

Chinese Orphanages adopt a “zero population growth policy”

By Steven W. Mosher

Jan. 07, 2002

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This is an old article - Jan. 7, 2002.

I don’t believe this is true anymore.

There is a HUGE problem with not enough little girls to some day be wives. In fact trying to adopt a little girl from China is VERY DIFFICULT today.

[Melinda]

Of course, what is happening in China should not only be a lesson unto itself as to what has happened there, but what could happen/may be happening here. To be honest, if Americans themselves didn't feel the need to breed as much as they do, the same problem wouldn't be raising its ugly head here in America, that of having more children than one or two can properly rear and educate without government (taxpayer's) assistance in one form or another, including schooling and health care. I have never felt it is anyone else's obligation to pay a dime for my children's care, and chose to have two, and only two. With the two-income family more of a necessity than ever, we Americans need to take a close look at our own priorities in this regard, and not make the same errors of judgment. If we do, we will pay for our mistakes in human lives in the relatively near future. Socialism is only a very temporary salve for failure. It takes individual responsibility and accountability to avoid the worst that societies and their fragile economies can engineer for our future. If one fails at that, one should realize the ultimate cost alone.

[silverleaf]

This is from 2002. It is an old article?

Orphanages in Eastern Europe are just as grim. In Russia handicapped children are shunted into psychiatric institutions to die among the insane. Orphaned children in Russia and Ukraine are preyed upon by pedophiles with access to the orphanages. Children in the poorest orphanages and in the institutions for "imbeciles" (which are often closed to foreigners) live without heat, with little food because the money to feed them is siphoned off by the corrupt or never paid by the govt. Children in my son's baby orphanage were fed sugar water for days one winter to survive when no money arrived from the govt to pay for food. In the summer the staffs bring vegetables and fruit from their tiny gardens to share with some of the children. Yogurt is like gold- so is a banana. I've seen the faces of kids who see these foods offered to them.

At least they have a roof over their heads- check out “The Children of Leningradsky” to see a documentary about Russian street children.

Humna Rights Watch has issued reports about both the Chinese "dying rooms; and about the entire Russian orphanage system, done in 1998. Romania where the poor dump their babies and handicapped kids in hospitals and abandon them, has not even permitted adoption for many years now. People are so poor in Moldova that human flesh is reportedly sold as food during the winter. You can imagine the fate of orphans in such a poor society. Street children are bought and sold by the hour in the Philippines and Cambodia.

Adopting from China and most of these other places has become an onerous process, unfortunately. Many good people are being turned away or turned off by the long wait.

[Bigg Red]

Thank you for posting this.

May these people answer to our Lord for this.

Whatsoever you do to the least of my brethren, that you do to me.

[keepitreal]

I don’t believe the situation is as grim today as was reported then. We have adopted two little girls from China and are waiting for our third adoption to come through. Our first adoption was in 1999 and things were pretty poor. However, in the last 9 years, through the help and support of many western charities, coupled with the fees paid to the orphanages by the families who adopt a child from them (which are used to help the children who are remaining), the standard of living for the children in the orphanages has raised considerably.

We are currently waiting for a little girl with special needs. We have received pictures of her through a charity that supports her. From the photos we have received, she looks healthy, as do the children who are in the orphanage with her (many of whom have special needs). The charity has started a school for the children in this orphanage, and they have done so in many orphanages across China. I also read in Christianity Today recently that the Church in China is sending its people into the orphanages to care for and teach the children.

Other charities have been involved in helping to build housing for foster families attached to the orphanages, so that the orphans can live in a family situation rather than in an institutional setting.

There are charities that send western doctors into China to treat the children in orphanages for cleft issues, heart conditions and other serious conditions requiring surgeries. These doctors take their vacations to go over and take care of the children for free.

There are hundreds of charities and thousands of regular people who have the orphans of China on their heart and work very hard to do everything they can to take care of them. And, there are many Chinese people doing the same.

If anyone is interested in helping Chinese orphans or orphans around the world, feel free to privately e-mail me and I will point you in the right direction to some fine organizations.

All is not totally rosy, but things are a heck of a lot better now than it was during the height of the “dying rooms” back in the 1990’s.

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[compound w]

I don't trust Human Rights Watch, a group that I believe claims torture is occuring at Gitmo. With regard to the orphanages, I suspect the truth lies somewhere in between the two extremes. But I have to take the whole article with skepticism when I read the following:

Mei Ming--whose name means "No Name" in Chinese...

Mei Ming is a name like "Mary Smith." "Mei" almost always means "beautiful" or "little sister." "Ming" is simply a family name. So, respectfully, I'm thinking there's a good deal of propaganda in this article.

[Salvation]

My heart can’t get by the subtitle.....

Chinese Orphanages adopt a “zero population growth policy”

Maybe I can read it tomorrow.

[8mmMauser]

In my haste this morning, I pinged and gave credit to wagglebee for this thread and as oversight, failed to ping to the thread as yours. Sorry.

St. Francis is my favorite Saint...

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