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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

"And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all things to Myself."
John 12:32


2 posted on 08/03/2008 11:03:41 AM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: NYer

Typology is awesome. It proves many Catholic points of view.

Worth getting into a class where this is emphasized. Fortunately, that has happened for me.


9 posted on 08/03/2008 2:54:30 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NYer

“13. Holy Scripture tells us that it is the Church and not the Bible which is the pillar and foundation of truth. 1Timothy 3:15.”

Irenaeus disagrees. Against Heresies, Book III:

1. WE have learned from none others the plan of our salvation, than from those through whom the Gospel has come down to us, which they did at one time proclaim in public, and, at a later period, by the will of God, handed down to us in the Scriptures, to be the ground and pillar of our faith.2 For it is unlawful to assert that they preached before they possessed “perfect knowledge,” as some do even venture to say, boasting themselves as improvers of the apostles. For, after our Lord rose from the dead, [the apostles] were invested with power from on high when the Holy Spirit came down [upon them], were filled from all [His gifts], and had perfect knowledge: they departed to the ends of the earth, preaching the glad tidings of the good things [sent] from God to us, and proclaiming the peace of heaven to men, who indeed do all equally and individually possess the Gospel of God. Matthew also issued a written Gospel among the Hebrews3 in their own dialect, while Peter and Paul were preaching at Rome, and laying the foundations of the Church”


14 posted on 08/03/2008 3:59:40 PM PDT by enat
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