He said 'Yahweh'; STONE HIM!!!
Posted on 07/29/2008 7:58:19 PM PDT by MichaelTheeArchAngel
'''Yahwah'''
'''Yahwah''' is God’s personal name based upon the ancient Semitic language. Take note that the letter 7 in Biblical Hebrew was known as waw and pronounced as w, as in Yhwh, “Yahwah.” In Modern Hebrew 7 is known as vav and pronounced as v. The derivation of Yahwah is from the ancient Semitic words HaYah and HaWah. HaYah means “The Life or The Living.” HaWah means “The Beginning or The happening.” This is a partial list of words associated HaWah: Be, is, was, became, happened and appeared.
'''Yahwah reveals His name to Moses'''
'''Exodus 3:13-15.''' 13 And Moses said to Elohiym, “Suppose I go to the siblings of the Israelites and say to them, 'The Elohiym of your forefathers has sent me to you,' and they ask me, 'What is His name?' What shall I say to them?” ''(Elohiym means, “God of The Living.”) It can also be translated as “god-s of the living” or “god-s of life,” for those who have life immortal.'' 14 And Elohiym said to Moses, “The Living that Lives. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'The Living has sent me to you.” ''(HaYah) in the ancient Semitic language means: The Living, or The Life.)'' 15 And Elohiym also said to Moses, “Say to the Israelites, ''''Yahwah''', the Elohiym of your forefathers; the Elohiym of Abraham, the Elohiym of Isaac and the Elohiym of Jacob has sent me to you.' That’s my name forever, the name by which I’m to be remembered, from generation to generation.”
'''Psalms 22:22.''' I will declare your name to my brothers; in the congregation I will praise you.
'''Psalm 66:4.''' All the earth bows down to you; they sing praise to you, they sing praise to your name." Selah. (Selah means to pause and consider.)
'''Psalms 83.''' 16 Cover their faces with shame so that men will seek your name, O '''Yahwah'''. 17 May they ever be ashamed and dismayed; may they perish in disgrace. 18 Let them know that you, whose name is '''Yahwah''', that you alone are the Most High over all the earth.
'''Isaiah 63:16.''' For you are our Father, though Abraham does not know us or Israel acknowledge us; you, '''Yahwah''', are our Father; our Redeemer from old is your name.
'''Isaiah 42:8.''' I’m '''Yahwah'''; that’s my name! I will not give my glory to another…
'''Jeremiah 15:16.''' When your words came, I ate them; they were my joy and my heart's delight, for I bear your name, '''Yahwah''', Elohiym of Host.
'''Joel 2''' 26 You will have plenty to eat, until you are full, and you will praise the name of '''Yahwah''' your Elohiym, who has worked wonders for you; never again will my people be shamed. 27 Then you will know that I am in Israel, that I am '''Yahwah''' your Elohiym, and that there is no other; never again will my people be shamed. 28 "And afterward, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your old men will dream dreams, your young men will see visions. 29 Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days. 30 I will show wonders in the heavens and on the earth, blood and fire and billows of smoke. 31 The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the coming of the great and dreadful day of '''Yahwah'''. 32 And everyone who calls on the name of '''Yahwah''' will be saved; for on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there will be deliverance, as '''Yahwah''' has said, among the survivors whom '''Yahwah''' calls.
'''A brief history lesson'''
After 300 B.C. Adonai became more frequently used than Yahwah. And the Books of Esther, Ecclesiastes, and Song of Solomon do not use the name Yahwah. The title “Lord” (Adonai) is usually a substitute for the divine name: Yahwah.
Origen reported that when Jews read the name Yahwah, they would pronounce it Adonai, while non Jews would pronounce it Kurios.
In the Greek translation of the Old Testament (Septuagint), written before the time of Christ, “Yahwah” was written in Hebrew consonant characters. In the Dead Sea Scrolls, the scribes out of respect for the name wrote it in ancient Hebrew script rather in their normal script. Later on, Christian scribes replaced the Hebrew characters in the Greek Bible with Kurios. Scribes translating the Hebrew Bible showed that Yahwah should not be pronounced, but read as Adonai by substituting the Hebrew vowels of Adonai for those of Yahwah when writing the divine name. Later on, readers who did not know this history did not pronounce Yahwah; but neither did they pronounce Adonai, as the scribes intended. As a result the Middle Ages readers of the Hebrew Bible began pronouncing precisely what was written, and the mixture of consonants from Yahwah and vowels from Adonai, producing the pronunciation of Jehovah, a word that never existed for speakers of ancient Hebrew.
The word "Jehovah" comes from the fact that ancient Jewish texts used to put the vowels of the Name "Adonai" (the usual substitute for YHWH) with the consonants of YHWH to remind people not to pronounce YHWH as written. A sixteenth century German Christian scribe, while transliterating the Bible into Latin for the Pope, wrote the Name out as it appeared in his texts, with the consonants of YHWH and the vowels of Adonai, and came up with the word JeHoVaH.
The number of letters in the Hebrew alphabet, their order, their names, and their phonetic values are virtually identical to those of the Aramaic alphabet, as both Hebrews and Arameans borrowed the Phoenician alphabet for their uses during the end of the 2nd millennium BC. The modern script used for writing Hebrew (usually called the Jewish script by scholars, and also traditionally known as the square script, block script, or Assyrian script; not to be confused with the Eastern variant of the Syriac alphabet) evolved during the 3rd century BC from the Aramaic script, which was used by Jews for writing Hebrew since the 6th century BC. Prior to that, Hebrew was written using the old Hebrew script, which evolved from the 10th century BC Phoenician script.
The original pictograph used in the Early Semitic script is a Y shape, a picture of a tent peg. The tent pegs were made of wood and may have been Y-shaped to prevent the rope from slipping off.
The Modern Hebrew name for this letter is “vav”, a word meaning “peg” or “hook”. This letter is used in Modern Hebrew as a consonant with a “v” sound and as a vowel. If the Modern Hebrew letter appears as (וֹ), it is the vowel sound “ow” and if it appears as (וּ), it is the vowel sound “uw”. When used as a vowel the ancient pronunciation was also an “ow” or “uw”. In each consonant, vowel letters of the Ancient Hebrew language the pronunciation of the consonant is closely related to the pronunciation of the vowel such as the letter “hey” is “h” and “eh,” and the pronunciation of the letter “yud” is “y” and “iy”. For this reason, it is probable that the original pronunciation of the letter Y was with a “w”. In Modern and Ancient Arabic language, this letter is also pronounced with a “w”. Therefore, the original name of this letter would have been “waw” instead of “vav”.
'''In regards to the consonant “W” in the name YHWH'''
Wāw serves several functions in the Arabic language. Perhaps foremost among them is that it is the primary conjunction in Arabic, equivalent to "and"; it is usually prefixed to other conjunctions, such as ولكن wa-lakin, meaning "but". Another function is the "'''oath'''", by preceding a noun of great significantly valued by the speaker. It is often literally translatable to "By..." or "I swear to...", and is often used in the Qur'an in this way, and also in the generally fixed construction والله wallah ("By Allah!" or "I swear to God!").
An '''oath''' (from Anglo-Saxon āð, also called plight) is either a promise or a statement of fact calling upon something or someone that the '''oath''' maker considers sacred, usually a god, as a witness to the binding nature of the promise or the truth of the statement of fact.
Chapter 69 of Enoch
This requested Michael, to show him the hidden name that he might enunciate it in the '''oath''', so that those might quake before that name and '''oath''' who revealed all that was in secret to the children of men. And this is the power of this oath, for it is powerful and strong, and he placed this '''oath''' (Akae) in the hand of Michael. ''(Akae) is not a word, it is most likely an authors note, it could mean, “Also Known As Elohiym” or “Also Known As Eagle.” Michael’s seal could be the double winged eagle found in the Dead Sea Scrolls. The four winged Cherubim in Ezekiel may also have a relationship. ''http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahwah
John 8:40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God:
If Jesus is God, wht does he call himself a MAN??? In fact, why doesn’t he just say, ‘go ahead and try and kill me, you won’t be able to, because you cannot kill God’. And then not die. Forget the resurrection, it would be more impressive to see that God could not be killed.
He said 'Yahweh'; STONE HIM!!!
Actually, I have reservations about the OT in some places. The Rabbis and their scribes are not exempt from trying to put forth their agenda's any less so than the NT authors.
(Try the Farmers Almanac for some fun reading that is a little bit more reliable.) What you and the other religious guy you are arguing with here have in common is that you are wrapped up in some kind of “my deity is better than your deity” gamesmanship — so much so that you both are oblivious to the fact that there is absolutely no reason to believe a supernatural deity (let alone a “personal God” that gives a rat’s behind about your prayers, etc.). Religious people are famous for their “leap of faith” (meaning they have no evidence of a deity, but they are willing to believe in fairy tales, so what the heck?), but you two take the cake.
Let me ask you a question. The material that exploded and became the 'Big Bang' -- WHERE DID IT COME FROM?
You’ve made a compelling case that religion is insanity. But thanks for the entertaining posts — I am getting quite a chuckle over the “you’re going to hell — no, YOU’RE going to hell” dialogue.
Ummm, I've never said that anyone was going to hell even though we all may have to do so for varying lengths of time. No one really knows for sure, and that includes atheists and agnostics.
I believe in erring on the side of caution.
If I believe in a God and live a life acceptable to God, and there is a God, them I can look forward to some type of 'world to come'.
If I believe in a God and live a life acceptable to God, and there is no God and no afterlife, them I'm STILL ok. No harm no foul.
If I don't live a life acceptable to God and there is no God, then depending on how evil I am, I may have an unhappy life.
But, if I don't live a life acceptable to God and there is a God and there is an afterlife, then I'm not going to be ok.
Basically, I only bother with these types of threads to discuss ideas and show why I think the way I do. As long as evil people don't impact my life in a negative way, I could care less about them. Are they going to hell? I don't know and I don't care.
I’m already reconciled with YHWH and I won’t be responding to anymore of your nastiness. Have a nice day.
Revelation 22:14
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Believing and doing are two different things. Actions speak louder than words.
1 John 2
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
The antichrist and other antichrists were already around when John wrote his epistle. John makes it perfectly clear that MANY antichrists had gone out FROM THEM (early believers) teaching false doctrine regarding Jesus.
Which disciples do you think John is talking about and what teachings do you think they are teaching that John thinks are in error?
Believing and doing are two different things. Actions speak louder than words.
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But not to God...
Paul said...
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. ...But without faith it is impossible to please Him: for he that cometh to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him. Hebrews 11:1, 6
Jesus said...
Jhn 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that He gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Jhn 3:17 For God sent not His Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through Him might be saved.
Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on Him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. John 3:15-18
Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. Mark 16:15, 16
what teachings do you think they are teaching that John thinks are in error?
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I KNOW that John was referring to the future erroneous teachings of the false prophet Joseph Smith...
Praise the Wonderful, Powerful and Mighty, Name of Jesus Christ ...
Amen
:)
Who wert, and art, and Evermore shall be! :)
Who wert, and art, and Evermore shall be! :)
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AMEN to that
:)
OMG! I laughed so hard, I scared the cat, when I read that. What exactly were they teaching THEN (John said NOW, not future), that could have been related to the future Mormons?
Oh never mind, I can already see this will be a waste of my time. Have a good day.
If you are even half as familiar with the New Testament as you’ve tried to portray, you know what the term ‘Judaizers’ means, so try another tactic to argue with the teaching directly from Jesus. [HINT: ‘Faith’ is an action word in the Greek; look up the word ‘pistis’ in your strongs; God transcends time and space, while we are presently very much caught up in the limits of those dimensional aspects, so our exercising of ‘pisteuo’ is something that occurs during a lifetime being lived, though God can look at the moment when we first ‘pistis’ in Jesus as our Deliverer, our ‘Soter’. Your Strongs will be useful in following the theme of that hint.]
You roared, 'Forget the resurrection?' ... Why? ... When God resurrected His body, His physical body level of existence in your spacetime, He proved He is The One Who can resurrect your spirit to Life everlasting. It was/is/will be impossible to kill the Life in God, though stupid men thought killing His body would end it right there ... kind of like your reasoning 'forget the resurrection.'
YOU ASKED: “Let me ask you a question. The material that exploded and became the ‘Big Bang’ — WHERE DID IT COME FROM?”
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MY RESPONSE: I have no idea and neither does anyone else.
Personally, I doubt the Big Bang theory will survive this century — the idea of a singularity makes no sense to me, and an exploding singularity that creates a non-uniform universe makes even less sense. Any speculation I can make about it would not involve defaulting to a supernatural puppetmaster.
YOU: “Ummm, I’ve never said that anyone was going to hell even though we all may have to do so for varying lengths of time. No one really knows for sure, and that includes atheists and agnostics.”
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ME: Yeah, OK, no one knows for sure. But there is no hell or heaven, or orange elephants, or purple zebras, as far as I am concerned, unless there is some evidence of them. So we can be pretty sure hell and heaven are fantasies. Same with purple zebras.
YOU: “I believe in erring on the side of caution.”
[your elongated version of Pascal’s Wager followed — I will omit it here because of its length]
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ME: That’s Pascal’s Wager. Discredited long ago by others who thought of it before me.
I believe in erring on the side of reason.
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