Posted on 07/29/2008 7:58:19 PM PDT by MichaelTheeArchAngel
'''Yahwah'''
'''Yahwah''' is Gods personal name based upon the ancient Semitic language. Take note that the letter 7 in Biblical Hebrew was known as waw and pronounced as w, as in Yhwh, Yahwah. In Modern Hebrew 7 is known as vav and pronounced as v. The derivation of Yahwah is from the ancient Semitic words HaYah and HaWah. HaYah means The Life or The Living. HaWah means The Beginning or The happening. This is a partial list of words associated HaWah: Be, is, was, became, happened and appeared.
'''Yahwah reveals His name to Moses'''
'''Exodus 3:13-15.''' 13 And Moses said to Elohiym, Suppose I go to the siblings of the Israelites and say to them, 'The Elohiym of your forefathers has sent me to you,' and they ask me, 'What is His name?' What shall I say to them? ''(Elohiym means, God of The Living.) It can also be translated as god-s of the living or god-s of life, for those who have life immortal.'' 14 And Elohiym said to Moses, The Living that Lives. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'The Living has sent me to you. ''(HaYah) in the ancient Semitic language means: The Living, or The Life.)'' 15 And Elohiym also said to Moses, Say to the Israelites, ''''Yahwah''', the Elohiym of your forefathers; the Elohiym of Abraham, the Elohiym of Isaac and the Elohiym of Jacob has sent me to you.' Thats my name forever, the name by which Im to be remembered, from generation to generation.
'''Psalms 22:22.''' I will declare your name to my brothers; in the congregation I will praise you.
'''Psalm 66:4.''' All the earth bows down to you; they sing praise to you, they sing praise to your name." Selah. (Selah means to pause and consider.)
'''Psalms 83.''' 16 Cover their faces with shame so that men will seek your name, O '''Yahwah'''. 17 May they ever be ashamed and dismayed; may they perish in disgrace. 18 Let them know that you, whose name is '''Yahwah''', that you alone are the Most High over all the earth.
'''Isaiah 63:16.''' For you are our Father, though Abraham does not know us or Israel acknowledge us; you, '''Yahwah''', are our Father; our Redeemer from old is your name.
'''Isaiah 42:8.''' Im '''Yahwah'''; thats my name! I will not give my glory to another
'''Jeremiah 15:16.''' When your words came, I ate them; they were my joy and my heart's delight, for I bear your name, '''Yahwah''', Elohiym of Host.
'''Joel 2''' 26 You will have plenty to eat, until you are full, and you will praise the name of '''Yahwah''' your Elohiym, who has worked wonders for you; never again will my people be shamed. 27 Then you will know that I am in Israel, that I am '''Yahwah''' your Elohiym, and that there is no other; never again will my people be shamed. 28 "And afterward, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your old men will dream dreams, your young men will see visions. 29 Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days. 30 I will show wonders in the heavens and on the earth, blood and fire and billows of smoke. 31 The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the coming of the great and dreadful day of '''Yahwah'''. 32 And everyone who calls on the name of '''Yahwah''' will be saved; for on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there will be deliverance, as '''Yahwah''' has said, among the survivors whom '''Yahwah''' calls.
'''A brief history lesson'''
After 300 B.C. Adonai became more frequently used than Yahwah. And the Books of Esther, Ecclesiastes, and Song of Solomon do not use the name Yahwah. The title Lord (Adonai) is usually a substitute for the divine name: Yahwah.
Origen reported that when Jews read the name Yahwah, they would pronounce it Adonai, while non Jews would pronounce it Kurios.
In the Greek translation of the Old Testament (Septuagint), written before the time of Christ, Yahwah was written in Hebrew consonant characters. In the Dead Sea Scrolls, the scribes out of respect for the name wrote it in ancient Hebrew script rather in their normal script. Later on, Christian scribes replaced the Hebrew characters in the Greek Bible with Kurios. Scribes translating the Hebrew Bible showed that Yahwah should not be pronounced, but read as Adonai by substituting the Hebrew vowels of Adonai for those of Yahwah when writing the divine name. Later on, readers who did not know this history did not pronounce Yahwah; but neither did they pronounce Adonai, as the scribes intended. As a result the Middle Ages readers of the Hebrew Bible began pronouncing precisely what was written, and the mixture of consonants from Yahwah and vowels from Adonai, producing the pronunciation of Jehovah, a word that never existed for speakers of ancient Hebrew.
The word "Jehovah" comes from the fact that ancient Jewish texts used to put the vowels of the Name "Adonai" (the usual substitute for YHWH) with the consonants of YHWH to remind people not to pronounce YHWH as written. A sixteenth century German Christian scribe, while transliterating the Bible into Latin for the Pope, wrote the Name out as it appeared in his texts, with the consonants of YHWH and the vowels of Adonai, and came up with the word JeHoVaH.
The number of letters in the Hebrew alphabet, their order, their names, and their phonetic values are virtually identical to those of the Aramaic alphabet, as both Hebrews and Arameans borrowed the Phoenician alphabet for their uses during the end of the 2nd millennium BC. The modern script used for writing Hebrew (usually called the Jewish script by scholars, and also traditionally known as the square script, block script, or Assyrian script; not to be confused with the Eastern variant of the Syriac alphabet) evolved during the 3rd century BC from the Aramaic script, which was used by Jews for writing Hebrew since the 6th century BC. Prior to that, Hebrew was written using the old Hebrew script, which evolved from the 10th century BC Phoenician script.
The original pictograph used in the Early Semitic script is a Y shape, a picture of a tent peg. The tent pegs were made of wood and may have been Y-shaped to prevent the rope from slipping off.
The Modern Hebrew name for this letter is vav, a word meaning peg or hook. This letter is used in Modern Hebrew as a consonant with a v sound and as a vowel. If the Modern Hebrew letter appears as (וֹ), it is the vowel sound ow and if it appears as (וּ), it is the vowel sound uw. When used as a vowel the ancient pronunciation was also an ow or uw. In each consonant, vowel letters of the Ancient Hebrew language the pronunciation of the consonant is closely related to the pronunciation of the vowel such as the letter hey is h and eh, and the pronunciation of the letter yud is y and iy. For this reason, it is probable that the original pronunciation of the letter Y was with a w. In Modern and Ancient Arabic language, this letter is also pronounced with a w. Therefore, the original name of this letter would have been waw instead of vav.
'''In regards to the consonant W in the name YHWH'''
Wāw serves several functions in the Arabic language. Perhaps foremost among them is that it is the primary conjunction in Arabic, equivalent to "and"; it is usually prefixed to other conjunctions, such as ولكن wa-lakin, meaning "but". Another function is the "'''oath'''", by preceding a noun of great significantly valued by the speaker. It is often literally translatable to "By..." or "I swear to...", and is often used in the Qur'an in this way, and also in the generally fixed construction والله wallah ("By Allah!" or "I swear to God!").
An '''oath''' (from Anglo-Saxon āð, also called plight) is either a promise or a statement of fact calling upon something or someone that the '''oath''' maker considers sacred, usually a god, as a witness to the binding nature of the promise or the truth of the statement of fact.
Chapter 69 of Enoch
This requested Michael, to show him the hidden name that he might enunciate it in the '''oath''', so that those might quake before that name and '''oath''' who revealed all that was in secret to the children of men. And this is the power of this oath, for it is powerful and strong, and he placed this '''oath''' (Akae) in the hand of Michael. ''(Akae) is not a word, it is most likely an authors note, it could mean, Also Known As Elohiym or Also Known As Eagle. Michaels seal could be the double winged eagle found in the Dead Sea Scrolls. The four winged Cherubim in Ezekiel may also have a relationship. ''http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahwah
Interesting! Do you have a group of like-minded believers to fellowship with and/or worship with on a regular basis?
Well, I'm out of here, it's late. G'night.
Thanks for the information. I may have another question for you in the morning. Good night for now.
You seem to have missed my point.
As you point out in one of your posts, Jesus and God were supposedly one, i.e Jesus was God incarnate. So God created himself as a flesh-and-blood human, so that he could sacrifice himself? That makes sense to you?
You wrote: “Well I’m sure Jesus knows His Name, and I have personally witnessed the Power of that Name for it is written “He who calleth upon the Name of the Lord (i.e. Jesus), shall be saved” and I should be dead today from a wreck in 2003 the police told me I had no business surviving, but the last thing I shouted out as I watched my vehicle collapsing around me was “Lord JESUS save us!” and I’m here as a living witness to His Word, to His Mercy, to His reaching down and snatching me out of the jaws of death when I called out to Him.”
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My response: Let me see if I have this right. You were about to be killed by a wreck, so you asked Jesus to not let you die. You did not die, SO you have concluded that Jesus intervened in the chain of causation of events, altering what would have otherwise been the flow of events. Basically, Jesus changed history just for you, and because you asked him to.
How do you account for the fact that, every day, a coal miner somewhere gets trapped in a mine, a plane plummets to earth, a soldier is attacked by an enemy, and a car spins out of control on a wet or icy road, and in each instance, the soon-to-be-deceased shouts out for Jesus to intervene in the flow of causation and spare him? And of course, Jesus fails to show up most of the time and the person involved dies.
Why would you think you escaped death in your accident as a result of divine intervention?
Elohiym means:God of the Living. Yahwah is derived from the ancient semitic, from HaYah (The Living) and HaWah (The Begining.) And so what God is saying is that He is the Begining of life, and that He is the God of the living.
To bring you up to date, Vav is “Modern Hebrew.” Waw is the ancient Semitic usage for the Hebrew. PS The scriptures are ancient, not modern.
I'm not sure of the source of your scholarship,
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
other than your Wiki entry which contains no citations.
Well this is probably my last post on the subject, but I did have one observation/question, and one final question. The first, it seems like an extremely tiny group of people who, according to the best understanding I can derive from your posts, believe correctly. Would you agree with that? Secondly, what do you see as the destiny of the rest of the believers? I.e.: do you think that Catholics, evangelicals, etc., are heaven-bound, or do you see them/us as condemned? If youd prefer not to answer, thats fine of course. Either way, prayers and best wishes.
That was impressive.
I will add the substance of your post to my very long collection of contradictions and inconsistencies in the Bible — that is, internal inconsistencies within the four corners of the Bible itself, and inconsistencies with the real world as we know it now. After all, we are not a bunch of sheepherders anymore.
OK, I realize you disagree with me on my own point — that the Bible is ancient literature that is interesting to read for its poetry, nice sayings, and even a little wisdom once in a while, but as divinely-inspired dogma it is just incredibly laughable. (Try the Farmers Almanac for some fun reading that is a little bit more reliable.) What you and the other religious guy you are arguing with here have in common is that you are wrapped up in some kind of “my deity is better than your deity” gamesmanship — so much so that you both are oblivious to the fact that there is absolutely no reason to believe a supernatural deity (let alone a “personal God” that gives a rat’s behind about your prayers, etc.). Religious people are famous for their “leap of faith” (meaning they have no evidence of a deity, but they are willing to believe in fairy tales, so what the heck?), but you two take the cake. You’ve made a compelling case that religion is insanity. But thanks for the entertaining posts — I am getting quite a chuckle over the “you’re going to hell — no, YOU’RE going to hell” dialogue.
Wait a minute. I thought perhaps you were joking or using hyperbole to make a point. But you are serious? Do you believe that “whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved” — from impending death in a car accident or other threatening circumstance? So how do you explain the apparent snubs by Jesus in 99 out of 100 serious accidents in which the Jesus-invoking participants get crushed? [ Please try to avoid resorting to the hackneyed “it’s God’s will” or “God works in mysterious ways” lines.
I don’t explain it, nor do I have to, to the likes of you.
You’re an ubelieving skeptic who thinks the Bible is garbage, and by extension, ditto for God.
That’s fine. It makes no impact upon my eternity which is secured by the Blood of Jesus Christ. I pray that you will come to the realization that your soul is lost forever if you die without the Salvation that is possible ONLY by the Son of the Living God.
You can deal with Him when you stand before Him without excuse or pardon.
We’re done here.
[Why do you bother even coming into a Religion forum if you don’t believe in anything but “Y*hoo”? - per one of your previous posts]
Not at all. It might seem that way, if you are tying to place people into compartments and label them. As soon as you remove the labels and compartmentalizations there are probably millions upon millions. See, one doesn't need to be a particular label to follow YHWH's word and to do YHWH's will, to be a Godfearing person. In fact, you don't even have to be a 'religious' person at all, to be living a life that is acceptable to YHWH. That's why labels are irrelevant.
Secondly, what do you see as the destiny of the rest of the believers? I.e.: do you think that Catholics, evangelicals, etc., are heaven-bound, or do you see them/us as condemned? If youd prefer not to answer, thats fine of course. Either way, prayers and best wishes.
Nobody gets a free ride, even those found acceptable will have to be brought through the fire.
Acts 2
31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
Zechariah 13:1; 8-9 KJV
1 In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness.
8 And it shall come to pass, [that] in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off [and] die; but the third shall be left therein.
9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It [is] my people: and they shall say, The LORD [is] my God.
There is also the question of what happens when we die? Some people think that the dead go immediately to Heaven where the deceased is happy and praying for those still living. Where do people get these ideas? There are no verses that support such a notion, in fact, just the opposite.
Acts 2:29 & 34
"Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is BOTH DEAD AND BURIED, and his sepulcher is with us UNTO THIS DAY
For DAVID IS NOT ASCENDED INTO THE HEAVENS
" (1st part).
Ecclesiastes 9:5-6
"For the living know that they shall die: but the dead KNOW NOT ANY THING, neither have they any more a reward: for the memory of them is forgotten. Also THEIR LOVE, AND THEIR HATRED, AND THEIR ENVY, IS NOW PERISHED. Neither have they any more a portion forever in any thing that is done under the sun."
Psalm 146:4
"His (man's) breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish."
Ecclesiastes 9:10
"Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest."
Psalm 6:4-5
Return O Lord, deliver my soul: Oh save me for Thy mercies' sake. For in death there is no remembrance of Thee: In the grave who shall give Thee thanks?"
There were seven recorded cases in the Bible where a dead person was brought back to life.
1. The Widow's Son (resurrected by Elijah) - 1 Kings 17:17-24
2. The Shunammite's Son (resurrected by Elisha) - 2 Kings 4:18-37
3. Jairus' Daughter (resurrected by Jesus) - Luke 8:41-42, 49-56
4. The Widow's Son at Nain (resurrected by Jesus) - Luke 7:11-17
5. Lazarus (resurrected by Jesus) - John 11:1-45, 12:1 & 9
6. Tabitha/Dorcas (resurrected by Peter) - Acts 9:36-42
7. Eutychus (resurrected by Paul) - Acts 20:9-12
Surely, if they died and saw heaven they couldn't be quiet about it. So, we would think that at least one of them must have said something - right?
Looking at these recorded incidents, you will see that the Bible is consistent. It teaches that death is a sleep state in which there is NO thought or emotion.
And let's not forget:
Matthew 27
51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
The Jewish historian Flavius Josephus, writing during the second half of the first century AD, produced two major works: History of the Jewish War and Antiquities of the Jews, and he had not one word to say about this most extraordinary occurrence. Fifty days after the alleged event, Peter was giving a speech recorded in Acts 2, but said nothing about the saints rising. Paul, who spoke at great length (1 Corinthians 15) to convince his listeners that Jesus' resurrection had occurred, had nothing to say about it either.
The appearance of these bodies "unto many" must have been the sensation of a lifetime for the residents of Jerusalem. If this remarkable event actually happened, why did only Matthew report it? About twenty percent of the gospels is repetition so it is not as if New Testament writers did not like to repeat what others have written; repetition of the most mundane events occurs everywhere, so why didn't Mark, Luke, John, Peter, or Paul write about the dead bodies of the saints marching through Jerusalem, appearing unto many?
Also, how come Matthew doesn't think we should know the names of the saints that rose from their graves? Why doesn't he tell us with whom the bodies of the saints met, and what they said--assuming they said anything, and where they went after their appearance unto the many? Did the bodies of the saints dutifully return to their graves after a polite visit, or did they remain for years among the residents of Jerusalem? If it happened, why is the NT so silent on the resurrection of these saints?
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