Posted on 07/23/2008 2:47:21 PM PDT by Pyro7480
When Gov. Alfred E. Smith ran for president in 1928, his candidacy was derailed in large part by anti-Catholic prejudice. It has been nearly 48 years since John F. Kennedy became the first (and so far only) Roman Catholic president, but experts say that anti-Catholic sentiment — much of it originating in, or as a response to, immigrants in New York — remains an enduring force in American culture.
That was the consensus of a panel assembled at the Museum of the City of New York on Tuesday night to consider the question, “Is Anti-Catholicism Dead?”
...The Rev. Richard John Neuhaus — a leading conservative intellectual, a former Lutheran pastor and the editor of the leading Catholic journal First Things — offered a surprising view on the question.
“To be a Catholic is not to be refused positions of influence in our society,” he said. “Indeed, one of the most acceptable things is to be a bad Catholic, and in the view of many people, the only good Catholic is a bad Catholic.”
...He added that anti-Catholicism was as likely to come from the left — sometimes from commentators who believe that a “threatening theological insurgency is engineered and directed by Catholics,” with evangelical Protestants merely as the movement’s “foot soldiers.”
(Excerpt) Read more at cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com ...
They are both compound questions with false premises.
Neither should be answered.
I could never understand why they do VBS at night. Everyone’s tired, LOL. We do ours from 9:00-12:00 a.m. It works out quite well. We have a bus that picks kids up in several spots and that works well, too. I have to go to dialysis two days at 10:30 so I can only work registration. I love that. It’s a wonderful place to send kids of all faiths. Or None.
I’m sure you’ve found lots to keep you busy. I retired three years ago and have been doing family history and scanning photos (hundreds of them) for my children and grandchildren. Hey, it keeps me off the streets. Love, M
I am too wise for your schemes, Lilith. I can tell your lies from Christ's Truth.
It depends on whose truth it is. I know we agree on some facets of truth and disagree on extra biblical stuff. If only we’d stick to what scripture says about it all. Sigh.
“I haven’t noticed any Prottys hereon on a path away from Christ.”
Christ knows their hearts and some are hardened. He knows hate from earnest attempts at Truth. Some are both hardened and blackhearted as well.
Don’t you know it. I’ve started on digitizing years of photos (and movies)...and I became a grandfather just eight months ago, so that is keeping me very busy.
My mother, who is 70, gave up teaching VBS at her Presbyterian Church a few years ago after some of the 4-year-old class wasn’t toilet trained. However, she helps with snacks all week! I think there must be a Church Lady gene, irrespective of denomination, that makes us volunteer for things. This week, I’ve been reserving inflatable climbing-things for our church festival in October, in spite of having told everyone on the committee several times (and sent my daughter to tell them for me, With Extreme Prejudice) that I’m not doing the children’s games this year.
So believing the Word of God is heresy?
Mary, this is what I see as the biggest problem with protestant thought. There is only one Truth. Belief in the "Bible only" theology has lead to every non-Apostolic Christian to adopting their own Truth based on their own interpretation of scripture.
In Holy Scripture we see a person following Jesus who keeps chanting "Listen to Him. He is a way to eternal life". Christ rebukes him. Why? Very simple. He is not "a" way to eternal life, as if there is more than one. He is THE way. Singular. One. Just like His Church is One...not divided by different camps of interpretation.
I’m married to a former protestant. He converted to Catholicism about 5 or so yrs ago. See how that works? His Dad is what’s known as a fall away Catholic, now a protestant, Assembly of God specifically.
It reads like hatred to me, Mary. I don’t really worry about my protestant friends or Catholic friends or Greek Orthodox friends or Jewish friends. I sorta worry about friends who don’t believe in God at all or those who completely deny Him.
I’m a Catholic. Catholics follow the Bible/Scripture.
You said: So believing the Word of God is heresy?
That is not what I said, nor what I meant. I believe you know that.
“In Holy Scripture we see a person following Jesus who keeps chanting “Listen to Him. He is a way to eternal life”. Christ rebukes him. Why? Very simple. He is not “a” way to eternal life, as if there is more than one. He is THE way. Singular.”
Where's that?
You said: It is not obvious to us that Catholicism teaches this, however.
If one can’t see that the Catholic Church teaches this then one certainly couldn’t claim anyone else does....unless one assigns to themselves some special gift that nobody else has. Because the evidence of protestantism is that 1. There are many truths/ways or 2. Only one person or one small group of persons possess the truth.
I base that on the fact that there are a never-ending number of different protestant interpretations of “Gospel Truth” to choose from.
Just as Jesus rebuked the deceiver who pointed to “a” way, I believe He would rebuke the “Bible Only” crowd for the same thing.
Ultimately that is why He left us a Church and not a book.
You asked: Where’s that?
I don’t have it at my fingertips. I am sure you could find it as quickly as me or someone else might point to it.
“Because the evidence of protestantism is that 1. There are many truths/ways or 2. Only one person or one small group of persons possess the truth.”
OOh. Excellent!
As in "Lex Luther" ;-)
As the academic dean once said, "If you can't be legalistic about the laws, what CAN you be legalistic about?"
They also follow extra biblical things, Twink. And that’s what protestants have a problem with. I have many Catholic friends and I never discuss our differences with them. Now if the topic came up, I would. But it doesn’t. We accept each other pretty well. You might not think that from what I write here, but it’s the truth. Love, M
You said: there have been millions over the centuries who were neither Catholic (by Vatican definition) or Protestant (by Geneva definition), but Christians
That’s wishful thinking. And, of course, the false interpretation of John 14:6, taken out of the context of the entirety of Holy Scripture demonstrates my previous point.
Even outside of Scripture or Sacred Tradition, historical documents bury that assertion.
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