Posted on 07/18/2008 6:46:18 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
Read #87 again, I think you’re losing track in so many discussions.
Post #11 deals with this quite nicely, I think.
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There is no reference to frying in hell whatsoever in post 11.
It’s a loving message.
Without hell, a heaven would not exist. Both have to exist, according to the Gospel.
A loving God gives out His judgement on the believers and unbelievers alike. He judges each of us equally. And His love for us knows no bounds.
It’s not a Baptist teaching. It is a Biblical teaching.
If you believe that the Word of God is true, then you must accept every teaching of Jesus, not just the ones that are easier to accept.
Hmm...Where do you get that idea? It's not mentioned in the Scriptures anywhere that I can find.
The Gospel of Thomas and other "lost gospels" which were left out of the version of the Bible which emerged from the Council of Nicea present a very different view of God. According to some of them, the god of Genesis was a lesser god, and a rather petty one at that. These gospels present the view of a God beyond this one.
Personally, I have always wondered at the seemingly human frailties of a god who is cruel, judgemental, jealous, demanding of adoration and obedience while at the same time being responsible for setting the whole cruel process in motion. It is interesting to me that some of the writings that were left out of the Christian scriptures actually address this very idea.
What was your answer?
It's faith.
As God is capable of all things, why couldn’t Calvinism be right for the Calvinists and your religion be right for you?
Subjective truth is an oxymoron.
Jesus is not the ways, the truths and the lives.
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Are people of different faith also correct?
Is religious truth subjective or objective?
No. I believe Jesus was a man.
“What you call blame, I call accepting things as they are.” And that’s why you keep repeating the same query every religion thread you enter? What a strange twist you like to put on things! It smacks of seeking desperately for an escape clause and finding it not ...
Escape from what?
***attended it all your life***
Are you saying just attending church will save you?
One of the biggest doctrinal differences between Baptists and Presbyterians (as far as I can tell) is that Presbyterians tend to be more Calvinistic (especially regarding pre-destination) and a bit more formal in their worship than most Baptists.
Good questions...And God provides the answers in His written word, the bible...
People without the knowledge of the existance of God will be judged by their conscience...It is inherant in everyone (who has come of age) what is right and what is wrong...
But interestingly, people of 3rd world countries who have never heard of the God that we know about seem to 'know' there is something somewhere who will one day pass judgement on their actions...
1 Timothy 4:9-10 "9This is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance 10(and for this we labor and strive), that we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, and especially of those who believe."
This is far from the only verse that could support the third view. I personally believe this third view is the correct view, if original scripture could be studied in the original languages. I believe God is love, and love never fails. Otherwise the "Good News" is really not all that great, since that would mean that most of creation is burning in hell for all eternity without hope of exit, if traditional Christian teachings on this were true. If you truly think about it, a God who is defined as being love, would never close the door forever. Eternity is a "helluva" long time. If the gate is open, and people choose to stay in hell or more correctly, Hades -then it's on them.
Mathew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
What about non-Christians? Will they be judged by their conscience?
I recommend "The Great Divorce" by C.S. Lewis.
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