Posted on 07/10/2008 7:28:58 AM PDT by Pyro7480
Paul Zachary Myers, a professor at the University of Minnesota Morris, has pledged to desecrate the Eucharist. He is responding to what happened recently at the University of Central Florida when a student walked out of Mass with the Host, holding it hostage for several days. Myers was angry at the Catholic League for criticizing the student. His post can be accessed from his faculty page on the universitys website.
Here is an excerpt of his July 8 post, Its a Frackin Cracker!:
Can anyone out there score me some consecrated communion wafers? Myers continued by saying, if any of you would be willing to do what it takes to get me some, or even one, and mail it to me, Ill show you sacrilege, gladly, and with much fanfare. I wont be tempted to hold it hostage (no, not even if I have a choice between returning the Eucharist and watching Bill Donohue kick the pope in the balls, which would apparently be a more humane act than desecrating a go*****ed cracker), but will instead treat it with profound disrespect and heinous cracker abuse, all photographed and presented here on the web.
Catholic League president Bill Donohue responded as follows:
The Myers blog can be accessed from the universitys website. The university has a policy statement on this issue which says that the Contents of all electronic pages must be consistent with University of Minnesota policies, local, state and federal laws. One of the schools policies, Code of Conduct, says that When dealing with others, faculty et al. must be respectful, fair and civil. Accordingly, we are contacting the President and the Board of Regents to see what they are going to do about this matter. Because the university is a state institution, we are also contacting the Minnesota legislature.
It is hard to think of anything more vile than to intentionally desecrate the Body of Christ. We look to those who have oversight responsibility to act quickly and decisively.
Oh! Sorry! I am rabidly coming to understand your nuances :o)
And, after doing that I’m SURE that he will desecrate a picture of Mohamed.
Yeahhhh, right!
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Unintentional humour alert.
While, on his blog, he makes disparaging, condescending remarks about everybody who disagrees with his materialistic worldview. What a pathetic excuse for an "educator."
Hypothetical. If, knowing everything you know today, could go back in time to Jesus' walk to Golgotha, would you throw yourself between Him and His tormentors during the scourging? Would you do your utmost to protect the Lord, unless commanded not to?
LOL!
RJS1950 : The way he presented it verbally and in a public state sponsored forum is what he should be in trouble over under the university code of conductBoagenes: He needs to be fired, right now. Hes a vicious, hateful, Christophobe, and he should not be employed by a major university. Would they waste five seconds deciding the fate of someone who said something like this about anything to do with Islam? No, they wouldnt.
Diamond: I can't speak for everyone else, but as a hard core Calvinist Presbyterian I think that the university ought to revoke the tenure of this vile, nut cracker (speaking of nutcrackers) and fire him. They won't, but they ought to.
chesley: The professor should be fired.
trisham: I wasn't sure this was not an overreaction until I saw post #54. This man's behaviour would not have been tolerated by previous generations. It is simply unacceptable in a civilized society.
Id like to see him fired too, certainly a religious student of any faith should have alternatives given the contempt hes shown for them, but I doubt anything can be done. This road has been walked before, probably the most prominent Arthur Butz at Northwestern University, one of Americas first prominent Holocaust deniers. Since he keeps his more despicable opinions outside of the classroom, and theyre outside his field of expertise-electrical engineering, his tenured position has been safe for decades. Despite the fact that his position with the University lends credibility to his ravings, as does Myers. Although though I dont see them there today, links to Holocaust denial sites were on his University site until recently, and as a Professor, he had his views printed in the Daily Northwestern on at least one occasion. If this in on the University website, or linked to his site there, that should end immediately.
Perhaps this guy isnt tenured. But he deserves condemnation. Northwesterns President has condemned Butz, his department has asked him to resign, hopefully the academic community at the University of Minnesota will take similar actions.
You can't legislate morality? Well, hate to burst your bubble, but 1) EVERY state constitution reserves the right of the State to regulate the public health, welfare, safety, and morals, and 2) a prohibition against murder is a moral judgment - just because it is common does not mean it is not moral.
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I would like to see it, but I am somewhat sceptical.
It is true, scientifically it is bread. It has all the accidents of bread but its substance is Jesus Christ, in the Body and the Blood, Soul and Divinity.
So are you saying that no one should believe in anything that isn’t provable by limited science?
I guess we should all then take on the religion of atheism because the last I knew God wasn’t sceintifically provable either.
Centurion2000: If you give someone the host, it becomes their personal property; THEY get to decide what to do with it .If Catholics want to make this large of a deal about this then why not take measures to stop someone from doing it? Like having the priest place the host in the petitioner's mouth?OpusatFR : Remind me not to let you put your hands on The Torah.
It seems to me the host is given for a specific purpose, at a specific place and time, removing it for desecration not being the specific purpose. I dont know the legal aspects, Id hate to see the Catholic Church issue terms of possession prior to services or posted on the walls. Anyone with common sense knows the circumstances, nor is it their responsibility to have security to prevent desecration as in this incident or the SF gay nun incident. Unfortunately it could become a necessity the the Myers of the world have their way.
Theres nothing un-conservative about condemning a jerk like Myers. Or asking for his dismissal if hes using his position with the University to promote his views.
OpusatFR brings up a similar situation. Whenever read the Torah is presented to the Congregation, but walking through the aisles, congregants touching it with a prayer book (which stays in the Synagogue and cant be used for coloring even if a Myers type thinks its nonsense) or tallit, which is kissed. If some jerk takes the opportunity of desecrating the Torah while in its proximity, are you suggesting my Synagogue should have additional security, theres always security at services for other reasons, to prevent that? And if not, somehow to be counted as a conservative I have to tolerate his act as one of ignorance or allowable contempt? No thanks.
So is God fact or not? Is the existence of God provable scientifically?
You may be asking the impossible.
You wrote:
“This is why the Catholic Church must end Communion in the hand...In addition, this is why we need to reinstate Porters in the Latin Church.”
Amen!
Not only that but without a forensic investigation of his computer to see which domains the alleged death threats came from and he, himself or any of his friends are ruled out, any death threat would be suspect.
I could send myself any number of emails saying whatever I want and signing it however I want. An email is proof of nothing.
I was with Bill until this last line.
You are right of course. Which is why in another thread about this incident I did suggest any Email be traced to its source.
I agree with you completely. Some people have an absolute hatred of the Biblical G-d. Ironically, they're often the same people who go on and on and on about the "beauties" of the supernatural beliefs of primitive people.
Evolution is not the issue.
Mr. Myers seems to think it is.
I agree. Everything within the bounds of legality and morality should be done to stop people like this, while at the same time we pray for their salvation.
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