Posted on 07/02/2008 3:28:00 AM PDT by Gamecock
blah, blah, blah. RCC dogma bores me. It’s one thing to acknowledge that God’s Word tells us we are to proclaim the Gospel to spiritually dead people. It’s a whole ‘nother thing - one called heresy - to claim that man can do anything that supplements the finished work of Christ. Romans 1:16 (among others) tells us God uses the Gospel to save people - people don’t save people. Romans 10 tells us that same thing - this paradox that God chooses Whom He will save, that His work on the cross is all that needs be done to redeem sinful man, and salvation is a gift of grace and not by works, AND He uses those He has saved to proclaim saving Truth to those who are perishing.
No authoritarian, borg-like man-made hierarchical organization such as the RCC has been ordained by God; no authority has been passed down to modern-day would-be apostles. Man’s imagination is most vain. The vile self importance of the RCC is repugnant to the entire message of the New Testament.
Excellent post in 257. A very effective and logical point. Some on here will resort back to the Spurgeon type attacks instead of attempting to refute your logical argument.
Some posters, when faced with irrefutable logic, will resort to the usual name-calling and change the topic of debate. Excellent post.
They were the Trademark gloves he wore to function remember he had the stigmata on his hands and Feet and side. That was so the Blood wouldn’t get over anything...He was a Fashion Icon before the Singer Madonna..remember her gloves... thats where she got the Idea!
What on earth is that? There is sulfuric acid, not sulphuric. But in any case the acid claims have been debunked.
Then you’ve missed some wonderful writing.
I’m handing it back to Eepsy for any further clues. The portrait contains a dead giveaway, though likely of no use to those who don’t already know.
;-)
The chicken, of course. BTT. ;-)
The questions you ask reveal a predetermined position that God is weak and needful of sinful people - of which ALL popes and bishops and the virgin Mary are counted as members. You ask me to explain why God does this or that? It’s a fools errand to put words in the Lord’s mouth - which is the job of the RCC and its Magisterium. The Apostles - of which Peter was not the leader, much less a pope - were of that time for the purpose of establishing the church. Contrary to the RCC and the non-RCC New Apostolic Reformation, there’s not a scrap of Scripture that supports the notion that the office of Apostle was used or meant to be one of multiple church rulership or authoritarian exercise.
People are not powerless - they are powerless to save themselves or others, but not powerless in other things. The Scripture is explicit regarding the sovereignty of God and we must, therefore, determine that’s man’s “free will” is something less.
Saints are chosen by God, saved by God, and kept until the day of judgment by God. The whim of God is greater than the grandest designs of men - the Bible puts it like this, in 1 Cor 1:20 - 25 “Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.”
Our purpose, speaking of Christians, is to glorify God. We do this by our “good works” - which the Spirit leads us unto after we have been born again. For all deeds done “in the flesh” (before spiritual birth) are sin.
Why, I oughtta . . .
From one of her stories,
“Which you like best?”“None of them,” she said, “but the chicken is not as bad as the rest.”
“What chicken?” Parker almost yelled.
She pointed to the eagle.
“That’s an eagle,” Parker said. “What fool would waste their time having a chicken put on themself?”
“What fool would have any of it?” the girl said and turned away.
Is it Flannery?
It is natural to mock what one does not understand.
In fact, understanding begins with an ability to recognize and repeat actual proper names.
LOL! Her first taste of fame was teaching a chicken to walk backwards (when she was a kid). I swear I am not making that up.
If God MUST be a direct cause in everything, and apparently is diminished through the use of intermediaries, then why is this so readily contradicted by the very existence of the self-same Scriptures you hold are the only source of Truth? If those sacred writers were inerrant through God's grace, how is it impossible for Peter and his successors to have a similar charism of infallibility under certain conditions? Can't God handle disputes about the meaning of His Scripture directly? If He can - and clearly He can - then why doesn't He, always and automatically? Don't say that He does through the Holy Spirit in the forum of the mind in each believer. To say this, and cite the opinions of all individual Christians as "evidence," is to say that the Holy Spirit is the Author of confusion. For no two believers, no matter how much they pore over Scripture and beg for God's enlightenment, agree on everything! Yet, if the Holy Spirit acts on each individual, they should. It does not diminish God's power to acknowledge that He uses the teaching office of His Church, which He endows with His grace-filled authority, to promulgate the authentic meaning of His teaching.
Left to our own devices, we will talk past each other till the Crack of Doom. Since you deny the teaching office and authority of the Church which compiled, vetted and canonized the very Scriptures you claim to revere so much (in spite of the utter lack of logic in doing so), your house is simply built on sand. Since you likewise deny Christ's establishment of His ordinary means of salvation through His Sacraments, your own salvation, while hardly impossible (since, for us Catholics, it is a fundamental principle that nothing is impossible for God), is far more imperiled than you know. May God grant you the grace to see His Truth as He would have it seen.
This ‘journalist’ is a Godless secularist who feeds the secular hungry with fodderful headlines with which to bash the Catholic Church. Headlines because few of them read the content and never research the authenticity or even care. Why spoil the fun? The specific book in question on Padre Pio contains nonresearched material, two doubious witness’ taken at face value and a few unnamed sources. But who cares about the truth. Numerous well researched books have been written on Padre Pio and the Times of London just happen to review this one!
Here’s some of this ‘journalists’ previous headlines...
That Martin Luther? He wasn’t so bad, says Pope
March 6, 2008
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article3492299.ece .....
No basis!
How MOSES is getting ready to part the waters around Venice
Richard Owen in Venice
The Times, Sat 4 August 2007...
Moses had nothing to do with the story!
Vatican faces EU - INQUISION on tax
Richard Owen Rome
The Times, Fri 31 August 2007
Inquision aka Enquire? How subtle!
Italian media play down the importance of ‘REVELATIONS’
Richard Owen in Rome
The Times, Thu 17 January 2008...
Revelations had nothing to do with the story!
Pope is warned of a green ANTICHRIST
by Richard Owen, Times Online
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article1459003.ece...
Anti-Christ? He hit the jackpot!
Google some of these headlines and voila - minions of little carriers and not all secularists - try Islamists and Christian Fundamentalists! I know the Islamist and Secularist agenda but the Fundamental Christians? That’s sad!
Okay then. Titles, please, gentlemen. I need titles.
Yes, it’s Flannery O’Connor. If you haven’t read her yet, buy a short story collection. Stick it next to your bed, or in your glove compartment, or in the can. You’ll pick it up eventually if you keep it convenient, and then you’ll read.
You’ll like it :)
A Late Encounter with the Enemy
The Life You Save May Be Your Own
The Displaced Person
A Temple of the Holy Ghost
The Artificial Nigger
Good Country People
You Can’t Be Any Poorer Than Dead
Greenleaf
The Enduring Chill
Everything that Rises Must Converge
The Comforts of Home
The Partridge Festival
The Lame Shall Enter First
Revelation
Parker’s Back
Judgement Day
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