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The Tribulation has already begun New book will reveal the details
RenewAmerica ^ | June 25th, 2008 | Tom Kovach

Posted on 07/01/2008 7:00:33 AM PDT by Raineygoodyear

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From the article:

....a prophetic equivalent of a "prosperity gospel" that gives people a false sense of hope and security."

Book of Obama

21 posted on 07/01/2008 7:24:41 AM PDT by musicman
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St. Matthew 24:36 — “But of that day and hour no one knoweth, not the angels of heaven, but the Father alone.”

From what I understand this is to mean just what it says the day or hour not the season or I guess the year, as I have read that the passage *Jesus comes like a Thief in the Night* has to do with the Rapture of the Church, actually when Jesus comes to earth as in the Clouds that all shall see is sometime in the Fall with the Jewish Feast in 2015 just some of what is written...


22 posted on 07/01/2008 7:25:17 AM PDT by Raineygoodyear
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To: Raineygoodyear

“Prophets” have been trying to guess what God has in mind for hundreds of years. While it’s good that he, or anybody, takes the time to read the Bible and try to keep up on current events, it’s more important to serve your neighbor and preach the Gospel of love.


23 posted on 07/01/2008 7:28:02 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (H2OLY: The chemical formula for holy water.)
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To: Raineygoodyear
Furthermore, the rapture has already happened, and it doesn't look good for you all.

Cordially,

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24 posted on 07/01/2008 7:30:29 AM PDT by Hoplite
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To: sport

I think he is referring to actually 2 events as far as Jesus returning the first one is the Rapture of the Church when Jesus says he comes like a thief in the night the other has to do when he actually comes back, when all shall see and every man will bow and confess Jesus is Lord that date is an unknown...


25 posted on 07/01/2008 7:30:39 AM PDT by Raineygoodyear
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To: ozark hilljilly

You will go somewhere if you are alive or dead when the First Resurrection takes place ,but when that happens no one knows. But the Word says “Blessed is He who takes part in the First Resurrection over him is there is no power of the Second Death.” There are mysteries that God has that we cannot always predict.


26 posted on 07/01/2008 7:31:57 AM PDT by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgement has come.)
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To: Raineygoodyear

Seems like the world’s always ending but we never get there...like a Zeno’s paradox of eschatology.


27 posted on 07/01/2008 7:34:41 AM PDT by macamadamia
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To: Cvengr

The Tribulation will begin about 42 months after the signing of that covenant, and will last about 42 months. Then the catching away of the saints. Then the Wrath of God (including the Woes) on those who are not caught away, who refuse to believe in God and his Messiah. (By that time, all Israel will have come to believe.)

The Tribulation will be horrible, but will be a cakewalk compared to the Wrath of God.


28 posted on 07/01/2008 7:36:16 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Raineygoodyear
Apparently he's never heard of the Big Burn of 1910.
29 posted on 07/01/2008 7:36:27 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DarthVader

His “fire from heaven” only affecting California seems pretty lame. When the angels throw fire from the golden censer of God, it won’t be limited to a relatively small area of California.


30 posted on 07/01/2008 7:38:22 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: DuncanWaring

I think the fires he is speaking of our more Global
Such as:
Greece Suffers More Fires In 2007 Than In Last Decade, Satellites Reveal Greece has experienced more wildfire activity this August than other European countries have over the last decade, according to data from ESA satellites. The country is currently battling an outbreak ...

(July 1, 2008) — Following the extremely hot weather conditions hitting Europe, Norway experienced its biggest forest fire in the last half century earlier this month

Major fires are visible from space – satellites detect not only the smoke billowing from major conflagrations but also the burn scars left in their wake. Even the fires themselves appear as ‘hotspots’ when the satellites’ sensors scan the Earth’s surface in infrared wavelengths.

More than 50 million hectares of forest are burnt annually, and these fires have a significant impact on global atmospheric pollution, with biomass burning contributing to the global budgets of greenhouse gases, like carbon dioxide.

California fires have grown to 1400

Maybe he is speaking of fires over a period of time that fits into the tribulation period


31 posted on 07/01/2008 7:42:19 AM PDT by Raineygoodyear
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To: Blood of Tyrants

It is lame. The Revelation version sounds like the earth being struck by an asteroid/comet or a full scale thermonuclear exchange which definitely can burn up 1/3 of the earth.


32 posted on 07/01/2008 7:44:16 AM PDT by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgement has come.)
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To: Raineygoodyear
The Tribulation is a seven-year period that is divided into two halves, each 3.5 years long. If you add 3.5 years to the Summer Solstice of 2008, you arrive at the Winter Solstice of 2012. That day "just happens" to be the last day of the Mayan calendar.

Solstices? Mayan calandar?

Ohhhh-kay.

[sarcasm]midtrib heretic[/sarcasm]

The idea that The Rapture — the sudden, bodily "snatching away" of Christians up into Heaven — will occur prior to The Tribulation is a prophetic equivalent of a "prosperity gospel" that gives people a false sense of hope and security.

Well, he's got that right.

33 posted on 07/01/2008 7:55:02 AM PDT by Lee N. Field (dispensationalism -- the eschatology of the Pharasees.)
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To: KarlInOhio
Fortunately he didn't accurately know the year or month because they've passed already.

I wonder why these ninnies even bother. Scripture says they should all be put to death, of course, if their predictions don't come true.

-ccm

34 posted on 07/01/2008 7:59:26 AM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: Raineygoodyear

Read PREACHING A PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE WEAKENS THE CHURCH at
http://jgrantswankjr.blogspot.com/2008/06/preaching-pre-tribulation-rapture.html.

Also, click here http://www3.renewamerica.us/columns/swank


35 posted on 07/01/2008 8:00:24 AM PDT by johnstown
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To: Raineygoodyear

INTREP


36 posted on 07/01/2008 8:02:09 AM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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charlatan and book seller...

...a few fires in California? lol


37 posted on 07/01/2008 8:14:36 AM PDT by rbmillerjr ("bigger government means constricting freedom"....................RWR)
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To: Lee N. Field
The Tribulation is a seven-year period that is divided into two halves, each 3.5 years long. If you add 3.5 years to the Summer Solstice of 2008, you arrive at the Winter Solstice of 2012. That day "just happens" to be the last day of the Mayan calendar. His math isn't so good. 3.5 years from Summer Solstice 2008 is winter Solstice 2011. But that's not as terrifying as the last day of the Mayan calendar and wouldn't sell as many books.
38 posted on 07/01/2008 8:19:47 AM PDT by Betty Jane
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To: piytar

Lots of “teasers” to sell books to Christians, little hard info. If he was serious, he’d post the entirety of his research online
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What does he need the money for if we are that close to the end? Seems like he is hedging his bets.

Endtimers, as a whole, are a group I don’t understand at all. The cynical me believes that it is the only way to rub the unbelievers face in the dirt. “See, I told you so!”


39 posted on 07/01/2008 8:20:43 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Raineygoodyear

Ping to read later


40 posted on 07/01/2008 8:32:54 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" -- Galatians 4:16)
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