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Woman Who Had Near-Death Experience Recalls Surprising Way She Was 'Judged' [Open]
Spirit Daily ^ | June 16, 2008

Posted on 06/16/2008 10:12:34 AM PDT by NYer

Several years back we met a woman from Syosset, New York, who had a near-death experience. We try to be cautious with all such reports. We're well aware that there can be deception in any realm, and also that near-death experiences, because they involve a reality far outside our own, can seem strange to some people. 

But hers sounded legitimate -- one of the most powerful we've heard -- and the Church has been recording such experiences since the fourth century (when Pope Gregory the Great detailed them). Scientists recently issued a study saying that millions have had these experiences, and we believe this woman, who resides on Long Island, is one of them. We believe she has some lessons to teach us. As you'll see in the coming several days, her experience was a complex one that shows us something about God's judgment, the way we are to conduct our lives, and how the Lord watches over us. After her "death," she claims to have had visits from the Virgin and the Lord. That aspect of her experience we submit for your discernment.

Her name is Barbara Marie (we'll preserve aspects of her privacy). She is married, has two teenage children, and her "death" allegedly occurred in June of 1991 -- when surgeons conducting exploratory laparoscopic surgery for endometriosis perforated the membrane to her small bowel at the outset of the procedure, causing what she and her husband describe as massive bleeding. Before she was brought back, doctors had to frantically take her intestines outside her body to search for the source of hemorrhage, which was finally found. "They tore it right as they were putting the instruments through," says Barbara, whom we met at Our Lady of the Island Shrine in Eastport. "They had lost me twice. They told my husband they had lost me and didn't know if they could get me back. The first thing that happened was that I realized I was in a void. It was a total black place in space, is the only way I could describe it. For a fraction of a second, I was very scared -- but as quickly as that came, I was directed to the left side of me, and as soon as I turned, there appeared a Light in the distance to the left side which immediately comforted me. 

"At that point I just started heading toward that Light with my being -- I don't know how -- and I was surrounded by what I would describe as a tunnel. There were like rings of wind, like the funnel of a tornado, and it was moving forward. Besides the Light, which was very bright, there was a prism within it and music unlike any that there is on earth. I don't know how to explain it. The music was so welcoming and it becomes a part of you. It was comforting, angelic. And I was moving up this tunnel and getting closer and closer to this Light.

"I know there was some kind of companion with me because every time that I had a thought, to ask a question, everything was answered immediately, as I 'asked' it. I remember stopping briefly because within the walls of this tunnel were beings. 

"I never had a great religious upbringing and never thought of purgatory, but when I came back it seemed like part of that, probably the last level of purgatory. [The souls] were existing like on the outside of the tunnel and resting, as if they were sitting or standing or lying down. I had a surge of emotions. I felt sorrow for them and despair because they were stuck where they were but it was also made very clear to me that as much as there was despair, there was full knowledge and peace within [these souls] because they understood and accepted that they couldn't yet move forward."

It was a glimpse of purgatory. But the Light was still there and was still to Barbara's left. "Brilliant, brilliant," she says. "You can't describe the brilliance. It was just filled with love and peace and the knowledge of God. As you move through that tunnel, you're more and more consumed by it. And then at that point I was in the Presence of the Lord. I was prostrate. I was not able to withstand the awesomeness and the majesty of what was before me! I was nothingness compared to that. And then there was a period of being embraced by this love and peace and serenity and knowing I had reached my final destination, that this was truly a home."

It gave new meaning to the word "home." This, she realized, was where she actually belonged. This is where she wanted to permanently be. But first there was a "life review." Call it her "judgment." It was astonishing to see her life as God did. In many ways, things looked very differently, she told Spirit Daily. "I was not only shown the things I did good and bad,  but like a three-way view," she said. "I was seeing it first through my eyes and how offensive it was. Then I was seeing it through the eyes of the person I had offended. Then I saw through the eyes of Jesus. When you see it in the Presence of Jesus, there's sorrow you can't even imagine, because there's true knowledge of the offense -- recognition and accountability. There's that inner cleansing and accountability. Then you take further accountability because you see it in how you affected somebody else. When you see it through somebody else's eyes, you see how it intertwined with their lives. You see it from a whole different point of view and you see how it affected their journey. And then when you see it through the eyes of the Lord, you see it as a whole. It makes the whole thing complete. You see how in the course of all creation it made a difference and how it then affected the Creator -- how it stops at the Creator when you offended one of His own.

It wasn't all bad, says Barbara. There were also the victories. There were the "magnificent" accomplishments that caused joy to the Lord. 

These events of her life amazed Barbara because they seemed so minor.

"The Lord showed me the things that really mattered, the 'extraordinarily,' 'magnificent' things that I had done," said Barbara. "There were two profound examples. One was when my girlfriend lost her fiance and it was devastating; he had been decapitated in a car accident. The Lord showed me how I was on the phone with her one day for two or two-and-a-half hours and just sat there and listened to everything that she said. I remember saying to the Lord, 'I don't understand. I didn't say anything. What great magnificent deed did I do?' I could never comprehend how this was something extraordinary or magnificent. I did nothing. I just sat there. I didn't say much more than five or six words. I couldn't comprehend how that could be so pleasing to the Heart and Mind of Our Lord. Then I was shown another time that I had walked into church and this woman had lost her husband. I didn't know this woman, but I was so moved that she had lost her spouse that sitting in the pew I felt I had to do or say something and so after Mass I had just gone up to the altar -- she had been sitting in the front -- and just put my hand on her shoulder. Again, I didn't say anything to her. It wasn't what I said. The Lord made it very clear that it was the gesture, the placing of my left hand on her shoulder."

It was the personal touch. It was kindness. He was not great feats the Lord was looking for -- not great feats as men describe great feats. It was how we made others feel -- and how much we helped. "Nobody has the same journey," continues Barbara. "My whole experience had so much to do with where I was in my personal life. It had a lot to do with my children and my husband. The way I was offending the Lord the most at this point in my life was my nearly verbal abuse. It was my attitude and the way I spoke to my husband and children. It was my tone and the things that I said that were very offending to another's soul and heart. You can be firm with your kids, but the Lord doesn't want you to use an insulting tone. We don't see things the way the Lord does, and for me it was a tremendous eye-opener. I was shown my vocabulary and the tone with which I said things, because it was a condescending tone. Firmness is allowed -- but with love."

Barbara was also shown how particular events had a tremendous rippling effect -- far more than she imagined. When she woke up grumpy and was negative to her husband and kids, the Lord showed her how this spread to them and from them to others through the day: at the workplace, at the deli, at stores, and then through the families of those who were touched by the negativity until many had been affected. 

"There was a circle of light around the world, and as I awoke and did this, the circle of darkness went over this circle of light and erased it," Barbara recounted. "Then I was shown the opposite, how when I got up in the morning and smiled and presented breakfast, hugging the children, how it went from my house and I was shown a drop of light that started in this one spot on the globe and went in this band of light around the globe. That was the way it was supposed to be."

The goodness might spread to her husband who spread it people at work or to a guy at the deli who then spread it to others who took it home with them or spread it elsewhere in a chain reaction that didn't seem to stop -- that seemed, at least in the spirit, to have global effects. "I was shown this ocean, this sea, and a drop of light that falls into this ocean and has this rippling effect," Barbara said. The trauma came when the Lord indicated to her that it was not her time, that she had more work to do, that she had to return to earth. She had great love for her husband and kids, but pleaded with the Lord to let her stay in His incredible Presence. She never wanted to leave Him. The thought of that overwhelmed her with "this despair so severe that I could never put into words." She still weeps in talking about it. But return she did. The doctors brought her back. After more than a week in the hospital, she returned "home" -- knowing this was not her real home, that her real home was elsewhere, that it was with Jesus.


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Theology
KEYWORDS: nde; ndes; neardeathexperience; oxygendeprivation
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To: Smittie

You’re right. Just as he forgave Peter when he repented. Both disciples betrayed Jesus, but Peter asked for forgiveness.


21 posted on 06/16/2008 11:12:02 AM PDT by freepertoo
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To: Smittie

Have you reviewed Matt 7; 21-27?


22 posted on 06/16/2008 11:12:44 AM PDT by G Larry (HILLARY CARE = DYING IN LINE!)
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To: NYer

At face value, this seems to contradict Scripture in as Paul preached, you are saved by faith and your deeds are an outward sign of your faith and love for God. By her own admission, she wasn’t very religious, I take it she may have called herself a Christian and that was pretty much it. In this situation she was judged solely on her deeds. Maybe because she was coming back. I wonder what her spiritual life consists of now? Interesting nonetheless.


23 posted on 06/16/2008 11:15:51 AM PDT by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: SE Mom

Amen!I am saving this article on my favorites.It affirms for me many other similiar experiences regarding near death.
I have spent the past few years taking journeys into my past and recalling the times when I chose to inflict hurt and humiliation rather then give love and comfort.I had to ask God for forgiveness first,then the people i hurt,if possible,but finally I had to forive MYSELF for being so cruel and petty.
My sins were many and even today I often have to catch myself for an ugly thought or a sarcastic word.Way too often the cause is our flase pride.He or she offended me so now I must “get back”.Thats old thinking.I just walk away now and have a talk with God.
Calms and focuses me like nothing else could.


24 posted on 06/16/2008 11:18:04 AM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: ZGuy
If a Catholic would report no purgatory and not seeing Mary, that would be interesting, just as having an evangelical report seeing purgatory and Mary would be; or a Buddhist seeing Jesus, etc. It just doesn’t seem to happen though.

Then this one will truly amaze you.

Roy Schoeman's Conversion Story

25 posted on 06/16/2008 11:19:14 AM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: Smittie

How can we be assured of our own salvation if St. Paul wasn’t (1 Corinthians 9:27)?


26 posted on 06/16/2008 11:21:21 AM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Having said that, still it does seem that she had a view of judgment that has something to teach us. Everything, everything we do starts a chain of events which stretch far past the immediate thought, word or deed. If I could just keep that in mind, I would be so much more conscientious about thinking, speaking, and acting in Christ and not in my own wayward ways.

That is something that I try to remind myself regularly. You said it very well.

27 posted on 06/16/2008 11:22:59 AM PDT by Ghengis (Of course freedom is free. If it wasn't, it would be called expensivedom. ~Cindy Sheehan 11/11/06)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I had one (nde) as a child (before I became a Christian)- I ended up in a place where Jesus said to me "it's not your time"....and I returned....- later became a pastor - since retired

The most profound experience of my life

I dont think it was Heaven - I was only in His presence, with no spirits - but the light and peace was unreal - In the times Ive been very ill since (few) I feel that same peace

28 posted on 06/16/2008 11:23:29 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: mockingbyrd
It’s not the greatness of the deeds, but the love with which they are done.

In the Lord's eye's, while this is not what brings us salvation, the good deeds we do for our fellow man, and the respect and kindness we show to all, if done with love and good intent, must be very pleasing to the Lord who simply showed us same through the love and sacrifice of his son. I only wish I was a better person at doing same. I can only imagine for every time I please the Lord, a hundred times fold he must be disappointed with me. For his forgiveness, and fro the forgiveness of those I have hurt I am thankful.

29 posted on 06/16/2008 11:29:07 AM PDT by never4get (We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid)
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To: NYer

Very touching...thanks for posting.


30 posted on 06/16/2008 11:33:13 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: NYer

bookmark


31 posted on 06/16/2008 11:39:34 AM PDT by Vision ("If God so clothes the grass of the field...will He not much more clothe you...?" -Matthew 6:30)
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To: stevio

There is definately a difference between being saved and being religious.

She may have had faith and a relation with Christ but for what ever reason, never got deep into the religious trappings.


32 posted on 06/16/2008 11:50:43 AM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: Smittie

Hmmm...the Saviour I know promised to throw my sins into his sea of forgetfulness. The only good thing you can do to reach Heaven is accept Jesus as your saviour.

Could be a misinterpretation on your part, could be an oversimplified explanation of the non-judgment of a loving G-d. But they are great lyrics, aren’t they ;-)


33 posted on 06/16/2008 11:54:14 AM PDT by Whiplash (does anyone really, truly give a rip about this?)
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To: NYer

So you believe Judas went to heaven?

I beleive the whole point of the theology in those lyrics is purely a Christian construct. Judas went to heaven only if he accepted Jesus as his savior.


34 posted on 06/16/2008 11:56:10 AM PDT by Whiplash (does anyone really, truly give a rip about this?)
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To: NYer
Then this one will truly amaze you. Roy Schoeman's Conversion Story

No mention of a near-death experience here! Just a lapsed Jew who adopted Roman Catholicism. Not at all amazing. No more unusual than a Catholic becoming a devotee of Hare Krishna, a Lutheran becoming a Buddhist, or an atheist becoming a Muslim.

Regards,

35 posted on 06/16/2008 11:58:07 AM PDT by alexander_busek
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To: NYer

“If I knew God I’d be Him.”


36 posted on 06/16/2008 12:06:21 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I have a friend who was told by a man he worked with that he had a near death experience and it was HORRIBLE. He went down a tunnel and creatures making horrible sounds grabbed at him.

My friend said that the guy was a different person after his heart attack...much nicer; "it really changed him, whatever experience he had."

37 posted on 06/16/2008 12:09:48 PM PDT by lonestar
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To: NYer

This is not, I repeat this is not an attempt to evangelize you...It’s a question, just a question and nothingmore.

What is the current state of your heart? If you forgave someone wouldn’t it be for you as if the event that had come between you had never occurred? I mean in human terms, think about it: The love is there, the desire to forget is there, but the damage is still done. It’ imprinted now and takes work to make it go away, but it’s a decision, which is oftentimes much stronger than things done on simple loyalty, affinity, or attraction. It has become a sincere desire at that point. One that has owned up to something being seriously wrong to have made it happen, and is willing to tax the entire universe if only it could be made right again.

What do you think about things like that? It’s true that out of those beginnings some of the healthiest relationships are forged. For one, they have been tried by fire and have endured the test. For another they require total transparency...complete honesty, with ouselve before anyone else. Moment by moment when it has to be that way.

IMO, the thing that makes that theology so potent, is just that: the human analogy that runs smack through the heart of it. It’s the thing we aspire to be. It symbolizes the very best in us.

Who wouldn’t want that?


38 posted on 06/16/2008 12:10:04 PM PDT by Whiplash (does anyone really, truly give a rip about this?)
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To: Smittie
Sounds like you need to read all of Scripture, perhaps for the very first time.

"And I saw the dead, great and small, standing in the presence of the throne, and the books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged by those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and hell gave up their dead that were in them; and they were judged every one according to their works." Apocalypse 20:12-13

39 posted on 06/16/2008 12:15:41 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Smittie
Sounds like you need to read all of Scripture, perhaps for the very first time.

"And I saw the dead, great and small, standing in the presence of the throne, and the books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged by those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and hell gave up their dead that were in them; and they were judged every one according to their works." Apocalypse 20:12-13

40 posted on 06/16/2008 12:15:56 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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