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Heaven: Close Encounters of the God Kind (excerpts & commentary)[Open]
BK: Heaven: Close Encounters of the God Kind ^ | 1996 | Jesse Duplantis

Posted on 06/06/2008 1:08:47 PM PDT by Quix

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To: Quix

Done.


41 posted on 06/07/2008 2:29:53 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Quix

Gee, thanks to Israel’s former Prime Minister, the Palestinians now have Gaza. Great move!!! I hope this one bombs the *&^% out of them and takes it back. I won’t hold my breath though.


42 posted on 06/07/2008 2:44:13 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Marysecretary

Thanks much for the list backup.

Yeah, I rather agree with you.

LUB


43 posted on 06/07/2008 2:48:06 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix
I don't think there are any startling revelations about Heaven in this book. But it is an encouraging read.

Have you ever read "A Course in Miracles"?

44 posted on 06/07/2008 3:32:54 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: fanfan; Marysecretary

I read enough of it to know it was a counterfeit from a counterfeit source.

I felt I had to put it down and remove it.

I think it’s seductive from an evil root.

Perhaps others would comment.


45 posted on 06/07/2008 3:35:29 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: oprahstheantichrist
"If He had spoken of it in scripture, human nature would be to pin it down to a number, and then extrapolate it into a whole incorrect theology. Whatever that age is, is between each person and The Lord Himself."

My faith is based entirely on scripture. I will be completely honest and say that I have felt things, or heard things, that I believe to be true, but if I couldn't mesh those beliefs with scripture, those beliefs were really short lived. So, whenever I read a defense of a belief like the one that you posted above, I am pretty skeptical.

Concerning the age of accountability, I know that it survives in tradition amongst a number of Christians as well as in Judaism. Whether or not there is an exact date of accountability is moot, since there is no Biblical evidence of this. What I wonder is, if there is an "age of accountability" that is between God and an individual, where is there Biblical support for this? If there is no direct support, however there is support for the attestation that there are other parts of one's relationship with God that is exclusive to God and that individual as could be manifested today, where in the Bible is that support?

Brother to Brother(or Sister), I ask out of curiosity. I really do want to know, because, as I read the Bible now, I see no evidence of it.
46 posted on 06/07/2008 4:06:04 PM PDT by raynearhood ("Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world... and she walks into mine.")
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To: Quix
I think it’s seductive from an evil root.

Why?

This book teaches that 'We' create our reality on this earth, but our souls are safe where they belong, in heaven.

What is so evil about that?

We are God's children, according to this book, and he loves us, even though we make mistakes with our creations.

Our creations, are ourselves.

47 posted on 06/07/2008 4:54:40 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: LibertyRocks; Quix
Very interesting, Quix. Thank you. I look forward to the respectful commentary of others on this thread.

Is this respectful commentary? (twilight zone music) do do do do, do do do do, do do do do, do do do do....lol.

48 posted on 06/07/2008 7:43:41 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: fanfan

It’s not something you really want to get mixed up with. satan won’t put something in your hands that looks or sounds evil. Please beware of smooth sounding God talk in these New Age books.


49 posted on 06/07/2008 8:57:32 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Quix

bump for later read


50 posted on 06/07/2008 9:01:58 PM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: fanfan

ANYTHING

which overtly or covertly communicates that man is the sum . . . most wonderful etc. . . not in significant need of God . . . can pull of his own miracles unaided . . . can achieve some measure of; version of salvation apart from Christ’s Blood . . .

is . . .

to any earnest Christian . . . . horrifically anathema.


51 posted on 06/07/2008 10:10:45 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

Uhhhhhh, no. The answer, is, no.

But I suspect that was already known.


52 posted on 06/07/2008 10:11:52 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: raynearhood

I think there’s a New Testament verse indicating such a thing . . . and I agree that it’s individual between each individual and God—and varies with each child.


53 posted on 06/07/2008 10:14:11 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: fanfan

Dear Fanfan; Please read the following testimony of:

Warren Smith is a former New Age follower who at one time was deeply involved in the New Age teachings of A Course in Miracles. He is the author of these insightful books:

As a former New Age follower and devoted student of A Course in Miracles, I eventually discovered that the Course in Miracles was—in reality—the truth of the Bible turned upside down. Not having a true understanding of the Bible at the time of my involvement, I was led to believe that A Course in Miracles was “a gift from God” to help everyone understand the “real” meaning of the Bible and to help bring peace to the world. Little did I know that the New Age “Christ” and the New Age teachings of A Course in Miracles were everything the real Jesus Christ warned us to watch out for. In Matthew 24 Jesus warned about false teachers, false teachings and the false “Christs” who would pretend to be He.

When I left the New Age “Christ” to follow the Bible’s Jesus Christ, I had come to understand that the “Jesus” of A Course in Miracles was a false “Christ,” and that his Course in Miracles was dangerously deceptive. Here are some quotes from the “Jesus” of A Course in Miracles:

“There is no sin. . . “ 9 [See note]
A “slain Christ has no meaning.”10
“The journey to the cross should be the last ‘useless journey.”11
“Do not make the pathetic error of ‘clinging to the old rugged cross.’”12
“The Name of Jesus Christ as such is but a symbol... It is a symbol that is safely used as a replacement for the many names of all the gods to which you pray.”13
“God is in everything I see.”14
“The recognition of God is the recognition of yourself.”15
“The oneness of the Creator and the creation is your wholeness, your sanity and your limitless power.”16
“The Atonement is the final lesson he [man] need learn, for it teaches him that, never having sinned, he has no need of salvation.”17
Most Christians recognize that these teachings are the opposite of what the Bible teaches. In the Bible, Jesus Christ’s atoning death on the cross of Calvary was hardly a “useless journey.” His triumph on the cross provides salvation to all those who confess their sin, accept Him and follow Him as their Lord and Saviour. His victory on the cross rings throughout the New Testament. It has been gloriously sung about in beloved hymns through the ages and is at the heart of our Christian testimony.

I found the Jesus of the Bible to be wholly believable as He taught God’s truth and warned about the spiritual deception that would come in His name. The “Jesus” of A Course in Miracles reveals himself to be an imposter when he blasphemes the true Jesus Christ by saying that a “slain Christ has no meaning” and that we are all “God” and that we are all “Christ.” It was by reading the Bible’s true teachings of Jesus Christ that I came to understand how deceived I had been by A Course in Miracles and my other New Age teachings.

I was introduced to A Course in Miracles by Dr. Gerald Jampolsky’s book Love is Letting Go of Fear. Jampolsky declared in his easy-to-read book how the teachings of A Course in Miracles had changed his life. As an ambassador for A Course in Miracles over the years, Jampolsky has been featured not only in New Age circles but at least twice on Robert Schuller’s Hour of Power. While Schuller introduced Jampolsky and his “fabulous”18 Course in Miracles-based books to his worldwide television audience, it was Marianne Williamson’s appearance on a 1992 Oprah Winfrey Show that really shook the rafters.

On that program, Oprah enthusiastically endorsed Williamson’s book, A Return to Love: Reflections on the Principles of A Course in Miracles. Oprah told her television audience that Williamson’s book about A Course in Miracles was one of her favorite books, and that she had already bought a thousand copies and would be handing them out to everyone in her studio audience. Oprah’s endorsement skyrocketed Williamson’s book about A Course in Miracles to the top of the New York Times bestseller list. Ironically, all of this was happening after I had left the Course and the New Age. In fact, I was doing the final editing on my book The Light That Was Dark that warned about the dangers of the New Age—and in particular A Course in Miracles.

After being introduced to the world on Oprah, Marianne Williamson has continued to grow in popularity and, as previously mentioned, has become one of today’s foremost New Age leaders. Williamson credits Winfrey for bringing her book about A Course in Miracles before the world: “For that, my deepest thanks to Oprah Winfrey. Her enthusiasm and generosity have given the book, and me, an audience we would never otherwise have had.”19 In her 2004 book, The Gift of Change, Williamson wrote:

“Twenty years ago, I saw the guidance of the Course as key to changing one’s personal life; today, I see its guidance as key to changing the world. More than anything else, I see how deeply the two are connected.”20

Thus the New Age teachings of A Course in Miracles are about to be taught by Marianne Williamson to millions of listeners on Oprah’s XM Satellite Radio program. Listeners are encouraged to buy A Course in Miracles for the year-long course. An audio version of A Course in Miracles recited by Richard (John Boy Walton) Thomas is also available on compact disc.

Popular author Wayne Dyer told his PBS television audience that the “brilliant writing” of A Course in Miracles would produce more peace in the world.21 Williamson’s New Age colleague, Neale Donald Walsch, said his “God” stated that “the era of the Single Saviour is over”22 and that he (“God”) was responsible for authoring the teachings of A Course in Miracles.23

Meanwhile, Gerald Jampolsky’s Course in Miracles-based book, Forgiveness, continues to be sold in Robert Schuller’s Crystal Cathedral bookstore as Schuller prepares to host a January 17-19, 2008, “Rethink Conference” at his Crystal Cathedral.24

At this critical time in the history of the world, the New Gospel/New Spirituality is coming right at the world and the church with its New Age teachings and its New Age Peace Plan. But this New Age Peace Plan has at its deceptive core the bottom-line teaching from A Course in Miracles that “we are all one” because God is “in” everyone and everything. But the Bible is clear that we are not God (Ezekiel 28:2; Hosea 11:9). And per Galatians 3:26-28, our only oneness is in Jesus Christ—not in ourselves as “God” and “Christ.” What Oprah and Marianne Williamson and the world will learn one day is that humanity’s only real and lasting peace is with the true Jesus Christ who is described and quoted in the Holy Bible (Romans 5:1).

Oprah Winfrey’s misplaced faith in Marianne Williamson and the New Age teachings of A Course in Miracles is a sure sign of the times. But an even surer sign of the times is that most Christians are not taking heed to what is happening in the world and in the church. We are not contending for the faith as the Bible admonishes us to do (Jude 3).

It is time for all of our Purpose-Driven and Emerging church pastors to address the real issue of the day. Our true Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ is being reinvented, redefined, and blasphemed right in front of our eyes and hardly anyone seems to notice or care. If we want the world to know who Jesus Christ is, we need to also warn them about who He is not. There is a false New Age “Christ” making huge inroads into the world and into the church. The Apostle Paul said that “it is a shame” we have to even talk about these things, but talk about them we must (Ephesians 5:12-16).

If people want to follow Oprah Winfrey and the New Age “Christ” of A Course in Miracles they certainly have that right. But let them be warned that the New Age “Christ” they are following is not the same Jesus Christ who is so clearly and authoritatively presented in the pages of the Bible.

http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/007/smith-oprah.htm


54 posted on 06/07/2008 10:47:10 PM PDT by Ready2go (Isa 5:20 Destruction is certain for those who say that evil is good and good is evil;)
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To: Ready2go

Wonderful post.

Thanks.


55 posted on 06/07/2008 10:55:12 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

Your name suits you well.


56 posted on 06/07/2008 10:56:10 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (The LibertyRocks Blog - http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com & http://www.LibertyRocks.us)
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To: Quix
END TIMES DREAMS VISIONS PROPHECY PING LIST.

Me too, please :)

57 posted on 06/08/2008 2:26:18 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1; Marysecretary

Thanks roamer . . .

you have been added to the main END TIMES PING LIST.

MarySecretary will add you to the backup list.

Thanks Big.


58 posted on 06/08/2008 4:54:45 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Ready2go

I believe that the deceptions in THE COURSE OF MIRACLES

is just a precursor of the much heavier handed deceptions the globalists and their fallen angel/ watcher co-horts will be bringing to the planet . . . millenia in the making and staging.


59 posted on 06/08/2008 4:56:04 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Ready2go; All
The following map from Stan Deyo's site is labeled Hopi sea rise map.


60 posted on 06/08/2008 5:19:52 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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