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Posted on 06/06/2008 1:08:47 PM PDT by Quix
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I've checked him out by my teen pastor who also pastors in Lousiana. They don't know him personally. And they've heard that he can pull a bit long for donations. Otherwise, they don't know of anything negative about him.
Good read, thanks.
While interesting, two parts of this would appear to be unbiblical.
1) anybody who believes in God gets into heaven. Not Biblical.
2) there is no age of accountability.....people claim there is, but there is no evidence for this.
I think you are reading things into it.
I said ‘age of accountability’ I don’t know that that phrase was used in any of the media. It was my interpretation of what was described.
The “anybody who believes in God’ is an over simplification. He didn’t spell it out and I didn’t either. I don’t know precisely that would entail from God’s perspective.
Scripture says quite plainly that those who call on the Name of The Lord shall be saved.
There is the whole rest of Scripture to compare with that.
However, I’m convinced that God’s nature is such that He’s looking for Biblical excuse to save people, not Biblical excuse to damn them.
Regardless . . . you are certainly free to think what you will.
Thanks for your bothering to reply.
Thanks for saying so. You are quite welcome.
Don’t forget, Christ said all who call “Lord, Lord” will not be saved. Yes God wants to save people, through Christ Jesus. Accept that fact, and you are a changed person, saved and free.
I certainly agree.
They are called theophanies, I experienced one back in 1996. I can’t wait to have another or die. Whatever God decides I’m willing to stay here and do His will or join Him in the heaven He has created. Folks, its all good!
Very interesting, Quix. Thank you. I look forward to the respectful commentary of others on this thread.
How wonderful for you. Envy, envy, envy...
As I understand it . . . there are various kinds.
Some are visions. Some are visits.
Roland Buck when he came to himself at his desk in his home office had in his hands a piece of vellum like paper with the 120 items on it that God the Father had told him would happen in the near future written in a beautiful script.
That was not a vision. That was a visit.
Jesse is convinced he had a visit. The copper colored fruit he ate to be able to survive the presence of God the Father and even of Christ was real juicy and he sort of was a bit messy in eating it and slightly embarrassed about that but, of course, it was of no consequence there.
Can you share more from your experience?
Very interesting. It reminds me of some of the things John Etheredge has written about Heaven, although I believe he writes from a point of deduction, rather than revelation.
END TIMES/ DREAMS/ VISIONS/ PROPHECY PING LIST PING. Please let me know if you want on or off this list
As do I. I should ping the list. And maybe I’ll put Joel Rosenberg’s email he sent Joya in on this post, too . . .
Interestingly, it notes that Netanyahu is likely to be the next leader of Israel. There is a Bible code indicating he may well be assassinated as Israel’s leader. Been a long time since I checked that site. I should check it.
Thanks, Liberty for your kind msg.
From Joya | 06/06/2008 1:17:26 PM PDT new
AHMADINEJAD VOWS U.S., ISRAEL WILL BE ANNIHILATED SOON
Senior Israeli official says war with Iran may be unvoidable. Meanwhile, Olmerts government on verge of collapse.
By Joel C. Rosenberg
(Washington, D.C., June 6, 2008)
Using some of his most apocalyptic rhetoric yet, Iranian leader Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is vowing that the United States and Israel will soon be annihilated, even as he refuses to abandon Irans nuclear program.
Marking the 19th anniversary of the death of Ayatollah Khomeini, Ahmadinejad said: Today, the time for the fall of the satanic power of the United States has come and the countdown to the annihilation of the emperor of power and wealth has started.
He also insisted that I must announce that the Zionist regime (Israel), with a 60-year record of genocide, plunder, invasion and betrayal is about to die and will soon be erased from the geographical scene.
Are Israeli leaders thus planning to launch a massive air
attack on Iran before the end of the year, or even before new national elections in Israel which may take place as early as November? Or are they trying to persuade the U.S. to do it before President Bush leaves office? Perhaps both. Which underscores the point Ive been making for some time while we intensify our efforts to pray for peace in the epicenter, we also need to be intensifying our efforts to prepare for war.
An Israeli attack on Iranian nuclear sites looks unavoidable given the apparent failure of Western sanctions to deny Tehran technology with bomb-making potential, Deputy Prime Minister Shaul Mofaz said Friday, according to Reuters report. If Iran continues with its program for developing nuclear weapons, we will attack it. The sanctions are ineffective, said Mofaz.
It was the most explicit threat yet against Iran from a member of Prime Minister Ehud Olmerts government, which, like the Bush administration, has preferred to hint at force as a last resort should United Nations Security Council sanctions fail to achieve the desired abandonment of nuclear development by Tehran. Iran, which denies seeking nuclear weapons, has defied Western pressure to abandon its uranium enrichment projects. The leadership in Tehran has also threatened to retaliate against Israel believed to have the Middle Easts only atomic arsenal and U.S. targets in the Gulf for any attack on Iranian turf. Mofaz also said in the interview that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who has called for Israel to be wiped off the map, would disappear before Israel does.
[T]he White House sidestepped questions about the Israeli threat to attack Iranian nuclear sites, saying it would not respond to hypothetical question, reported Ynet News in Israel. The world community, I believe, is united in the desire to make sure that Iran doesnt develop a nuclear weapon and have a severe threat that we dont want to see come to fruition, White House spokesman Scott Stanzel told reporters. But asked specifically whether the United States would support an Israeli strike on Iran, he said, Im not going to talk about hypotheticals. I think weve been pretty clear in recent weeks and months about our approach on Iran....
Meanwhile, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert is warning that Israel may soon be forced to launch a major military operation in Gaza to stop thousands of rockets, mortars and missiles which continue raining down on the southern cities and towns of the Jewish State....
Reports the Jerusalem Post: Prime Minister Ehud Olmert returned to Israel from the US on Friday morning and, echoing the previous days remarks by Defense Minister Ehud Barak, hinted that Gazas day of reckoning was fast approaching. We are constantly evaluating between the possibility [of a deal] to reach complete quiet and the lack of a possibility of reaching such an agreement, he said. The absence of the latter option will draw us closer to an operation that will be much harsher and tougher against the [terror] groups.
According to the information we have now, the pendulum is closer to a decision to embark on a harsh operation in the Gaza Strip than it is to an agreement with the terror organizations, continued Olmert.
Olmerts comments came a day after Amnon Rozenberg, 51, a father of three, was killed by a Gaza shell that hit the Nirlat paint factory at Kibbutz Nir Oz. The Security Cabinet is set to convene on Tuesday to discuss a response to the incessant attacks from Gaza. Olmert told an Israel Radio reporter that Israel was exploring all the options available in order to achieve complete quiet for southerners without the need to enter into a violent and severe confrontation with terror groups in the Strip, adding, however, that there was a distinct possibility Israel would need to embark on an offensive and extensive operation against Palestinian terror groups.
Weighing heavily on Olmert as he makes decisions about Iran and Gaza is his own precarious political position, and the fact that both he and President Bush will be out of office soon. Olmert was in Washington earlier this week, meeting with President Bush and other senior administration officials, as well as addressing the annual conference of AIPAC, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. But Olmerts trip may be his last to D.C. as premier.
The buzz out of Israel is that early elections are increasingly expected, perhaps this November or December. While this is not yet official and Israeli politics are notoriously turbulent and unpredictable leaders and field workers of the major parties are working under the assumption that the Olmert government, tainted by the failed Second Lebanon War and new allegations of corruption, is on its last legs and that they need to be ready for snap elections in the fall. For now, all eyes are focused on June 18th, the dates the Knesset could vote to dissolve itself, automatically triggering new elections.
New polling indicates the Likud Party, led by former Prime Minister Benjamin Bibi Netanyahu is not only far ahead but surging. Were elections held this month, Likud would be expected to pick up as many as 35 parliament seats, up from an estimated 30 seats last November. The Labour Party, by contrast led by current Defense Minister Ehud Barak has lost significant ground since last November, garnering support for only 19 seats currently, down from 23. Olmerts Kadima Party, meanwhile, continues to slide. Current polls show Kadima likely to be led by current Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni after Olmerts departure would receive only 11 Knesset seats, rather than 15.
I know the feeling, Mary.
I think there are going to be more such in the near future.
Many Islamic whole families are coming to Jesus through visions, dreams about Jesus and they then have to go find out about who Jesus is beyond the vision telling them He’s God.
Is his book that thick one on display now in the Christian bookstores?
He has 5 or 6 books out. The most recent one “Walking With God” is currently featured in bookstores. I bought it today! It’s not especially thick, though.
“Waking the Dead” is the one most concerned with Heaven, iirc.
Thanks. I’ll keep my eye out for it.
His earlier books are in libraries and discount outlets.
God bless you, too, and have a good weekend.
Thanks and likewise.
It’s “Eldredge.” You want find the right books in the catalog with the wrong name :-).
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