Posted on 05/28/2008 6:05:04 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007
Hello fellow Freepers. I believe this is my first post on the Religion forum.
Over the past week or so, I put some thought into something I've been pondering for a while; my spiritual welfare. As it was, I had been part of the 'Sola Scriptua' school of thought (Evangelical Christian). By the Bible and only the Bible. Sounded good enough.
Well...what about before the Bible was put into word? It stuck in my head when reading an article earlier on FR concerning a deconstruction of Sola Scriptura and its inherent weaknesses as a foundation for one's faith.
This, combined with a genuine lack of churchgoing (as a family, we've been uncertain about going to various churches, given that top-down problems with Episcopal/Methodist/etc. churches and their increasing liberalization are a genuine problem for one's spiritual welfare), compelled me to make a decision.
I don't know if my family will follow me, persay, but I'm going to go ahead and take the plunge.
Next month, I'm going to the Church of St. Thomas the Apostle near my home, and I'm joining the Roman Catholic Church.
As is, I have a few volumes of the Magnificat pamphlet and the Catechism of the Catholic Church to read.
Any other pointers from other Catholic Freepers?
Good suggestions!
LOL!
lol!
Good grief you have some crazy ideas here.
HUMILITY???PPFFFFTTT!
That is absolutely UNamerican, asking somebody to humble themselves. Don't you know that the "id" is GAWD???
hee-hee
BTW, along those lines, you should, if you haven't before, read Leo XIII's Testem Benevolentiae Nostrae (Virtue, Nature and Grace, and Americanism). One of the many "money lines" in that work is:
These dangers, viz., the confounding of license with liberty, the passion for discussing and pouring contempt upon any possible subject, the assumed right to hold whatever opinions one pleases upon any subject and to set them forth in print to the world, have so wrapped minds in darkness that there is now a greater need of the Church's teaching office than ever before, lest people become unmindful both of conscience and of duty.
Sound familiar?
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You got a mouse in your pocket?
Who's this "we" you're talking about?
Sounds kinda Gnostic to me.
I'm not surprised
No, Jesus did not found “The Catholic Church.” He founded the “catholic” (meaning “universal”) Church. His Church is not found in Rome, but among those of us who follow Him.
Your free to have the Pope as your senior pastor. That’s fine. I’d prefer, though, that Roman Catholics not imply that my pastor is any less legitimate than yours.
You also didn't answer my question: who's this "we" that "understands?"
You are very aware of Holy Tradition. It's even cited in John and Peter's letters.
sola scriptura debate between Patrick Madrid and Douglas Jones [Catholic vs Reformed]
Getting in Touch With Reality (good character and behavior as a ticket to Heaven)
The Early Church Fathers on Salvation Outside the Church [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
Extra ecclesiam - Outside the Church there is no salvation.
Is Faith Necessary for Salvation? (Part 2)
Good Will Equals Salvation? (Did the pope say non christians could be saved - part 1)
The Experience of the Salvation of Christ Today
Justification: declarative or transformative?
The Early Church Fathers on Justification - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus
Questions on Justification (five questions regarding justification and the Bible)
Yes, it is. It’s almost like they are false titles.
These are not gotcha question. I'm really just asking.
I really don’t think the Catholics are hateful. We just like to put the truth out there for all of you to learn about Catholicism.
That is not hate.
We intend to educate.
Your disagreement with Catholics is what? But Catholics disagreements with you is “hate”. Hmm.
I'm asking this because of your statement and because somebody else said John 1:1 referred to the Bible. Can we therefore paraphrase John thus:
(1) ...The Bible was with God and the Bible was God
(3) (All things were made by the Bible - paraphrase)
(10) The Bible was in the world, and the world was made through the Bible and the world knew the Bible not.
(14) and the Bible was made flesh and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth; we have beheld the Bible's glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father.
How far does this view go with the indentification of John 1:1 with the Bible and with the Bible's meriting worship (not veneration but worship)?
BlackElk, you are like a Queen in a chess match: sparingly used, but ever so effective.
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