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Mormons, Scientologists face uphill battle against Wikileaks
arstechnica.com ^ | May 14, 2008 | Nate Anderson

Posted on 05/27/2008 8:26:20 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion

Can Mormon women wear pants when visiting a temple? Can men wear cummerbunds during a marriage ceremony? Are vasectomies an appropriate birth control option? The answers to these (no, no, and not really) and similar questions about Mormon practice and leadership might not seem to be especially secret, but the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints isn't pleased about secret church documents hitting the Internet.

In this case, the cause of the displeasure is the confidential Church Handbook of Instructions, published by Wikileaks on April 16. The church is currently trying to get the information pulled down using copyright infringement notices, but Wikileaks doesn't respond to such requests. The church has turned instead to targeting other sites that host or link the handbook.

Scribd, a sort of "YouTube for documents," has already taken down a copy of the material after receiving a copyright infringement notice from the Intellectual Property Division of the Church (who knew churches had such divisions?). The church has also gone after the Wikimedia Foundation, the group that oversees Wikipedia and Wikinews (it has no connection to Wikileaks). What's interesting about the takedown request is that the Wikimedia Foundation did not actually host or even cite the material in question; a Wikinews article published on April 19 simply mentioned the existence of the handbooks at Wikileaks and provided a link to it. In response, Wikimedia also received a copyright infringement notice from Intellectual Reserve, the church's IP division. The link was subsequently removed.

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TOPICS: Current Events
KEYWORDS: cults; intellectualproperty; internet; lds; mormon; mormons; privacy
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To: AppyPappy
I taught Romans 10:1-3 this Sunday. Ironically, only two students showed up.

MAybe the others would not have listened anyway...

61 posted on 05/28/2008 7:13:11 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: wintertime
The reception IS quite normal, but the actual Temple service is not.

Only Mormons in good standing are allowed inside the Temple to attend the wedding. There are many times that the parents of the bride or groom are prohibited.

My grandmother could not attend my Temple Wedding. She admitted to her Bishop that she had been drinking tea, and was unable to pay a full 10% tithe on her fixed income of Social Security.

62 posted on 05/28/2008 7:14:02 AM PDT by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
GOD can say it; just YOU can't!

Puny Earthling!!


63 posted on 05/28/2008 7:15:48 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: wintertime
The groom wore a tux with a cummerbund.

Were the pleats up or down??

64 posted on 05/28/2008 7:16:30 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Scientology is a newer religion than Mormonism...


65 posted on 05/28/2008 7:17:56 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
HMMmm... I wonder where they learned THAT??

Dunno. The Policy came directly from Source - L. Ron Hubbard - himself.

66 posted on 05/28/2008 7:39:31 AM PDT by null and void (Capitalism=>Audi, BMW, Porsche, Volkswagon. |WALL| Communism=>Trabi. Any questions?)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I downloaded it, it has some eyeopening sections regarding excommunications.


67 posted on 05/28/2008 7:51:29 AM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: Elsie

Sideways, actually.


68 posted on 05/28/2008 7:58:28 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; Virginia Ridgerunner
the Intellectual Property Division of the Church

I wonder what Jesus thinks of such things?[VA Ridgerunner]

VR, doncha know? The Intellectual Property Division is part of the overall "restoration" of the original New Testament. (You see, Judas was the most tight-fisted one & didn't want anyone veering in on Jesus' financial action...so Judas was named "IPDAM" -- "Intellectual Property Division Apostle-Manager"...I know I missed that verse in my Sunday School lessons growing up...maybe you did, too?)

69 posted on 05/28/2008 10:05:56 AM PDT by Colofornian (As the fLDS is now, the LDS once was. As the fLDS is now, the LDS will become)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Omigosh, that’s a riot. I was interested in the Masonic/Mormon connection. Hmmmm.......


70 posted on 05/28/2008 3:32:08 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: AppyPappy
In the Presbyterian Church, they are posted in the bulletin.

Depends on what numbers and what church. If you want to see useful numbers (not just giving or broad budget categories) in our church, you're probably going to have to visit the church office - or at least ask a church officer. Most of the numbers are available to members, but they aren't passed out to those who don't ask.

Now, I have seen churches that post fairly detailed numbers on their web site.

71 posted on 05/28/2008 5:46:06 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: colorcountry
This is an interesting paragraph:
Murder
As used here, murder refers to the deliberate and unjustified taking of human life. It requires excommunication. Abortion is not defined as murder for this purpose.

In that case, it looks like Romney's pro-abortion stance is consistent with the Mormon church. Bet the Mormons don't like this part getting out.

72 posted on 05/28/2008 5:50:47 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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