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| 5/21/2008
Posted on 05/21/2008 3:15:02 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: Biggirl
Yeah, I wish only the good fruits would have matured.
The problem is many of the “fruits” are in our seminaries. JPII worried so much about others he forgot his own flock.
And I’m a Pole. The man was wonderfully spiritual but misguided.
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posted on
05/21/2008 8:06:15 PM PDT
by
netmilsmom
(I am Ironmom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
To: livius
>>But the Church completely collapsed during his pontificate and he did little to nothing to bring it back<<
You’ve got that right!
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posted on
05/21/2008 8:07:20 PM PDT
by
netmilsmom
(I am Ironmom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
To: Biggirl
Remember this Pope helped bring many young people to faith in God. That is what all Popes (and bishops and priests) are supposed to do.
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posted on
05/21/2008 8:19:36 PM PDT
by
ELS
(Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
To: Kolokotronis
I find this a bit bizarre, not to say unseemly and enthusiastic. Agreed.
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posted on
05/21/2008 8:22:55 PM PDT
by
ELS
(Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
To: markomalley
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posted on
05/21/2008 8:42:09 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
To: Tax-chick
I declare to you that John Paul II shall be beatified DD/MM/YYYY (where DD is the date, MM is the month and YYYY is the year).
Of this there can be no doubt.
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posted on
05/21/2008 8:45:11 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
To: Mrs. Don-o
I think two to be beautifield. Bear with my spelling, I just got up and is having my first cup of coffee.
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posted on
05/22/2008 2:47:47 AM PDT
by
Biggirl
(A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
To: ELS
JPII blazed a trail so that Benedict XVI and our bishops and priests can do so. Thank him.
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posted on
05/22/2008 2:51:15 AM PDT
by
Biggirl
(A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
To: Kolokotronis
Thank him because with the liberation of Eastern Europe Christians are allowed to worship freely once again.
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posted on
05/22/2008 2:53:50 AM PDT
by
Biggirl
(A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
To: markomalley
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posted on
05/22/2008 2:54:32 AM PDT
by
Biggirl
(A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
To: markomalley
A great man, heroic to Catholics and protestants alike.
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posted on
05/22/2008 2:57:02 AM PDT
by
Luke21
To: Biggirl
“Thank him because with the liberation of Eastern Europe Christians are allowed to worship freely once again.”
As we should certainly also thank Ronald Reagan.
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posted on
05/22/2008 3:30:51 AM PDT
by
Kolokotronis
(Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
To: Petronski
You’re a prophet, Petronski!
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posted on
05/22/2008 4:10:09 AM PDT
by
Tax-chick
("If Global Warming did not exist, the left would have to invent it. In fact, they did." ~Don Feder)
To: Kolokotronis
Please see post 16. Thanks.
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posted on
05/22/2008 5:25:37 AM PDT
by
Biggirl
(A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
To: Biggirl
JPII blazed a trail so that Benedict XVI and our bishops and priests can do so. All faithful priests, bishops, and popes throughout history have led Catholics to greater holiness and ultimately to heaven. That is not a trail blazed by JPII and is not a definitive criterion for canonization.
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posted on
05/22/2008 8:12:46 AM PDT
by
ELS
(Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
To: Kolokotronis
As a general proposition, he was not particularly well thought of among Orthodox people, from hierarchs on down. It was precisely this personality cult, what we saw as his showman style and frankly his distinctly un-Orthodox, rather loose theology which turned us off. That said, I oubt his personal holiness wasnt doubted. You know what we think of +BXVI.I didn't know the Orthodox felt that way about JP2. And what do they think of B16?
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posted on
05/22/2008 9:31:45 AM PDT
by
E. Cartman
(Screw MacCain and the elephant he rode in on.)
To: E. Cartman
“And what do they think of B16?”
Many are of the opinion, I among them, that we are seeing the first true Father of The Church in near 700 years.
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posted on
05/22/2008 10:06:44 AM PDT
by
Kolokotronis
(Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
To: Kolokotronis
Many are of the opinion, I among them, that we are seeing the first true Father[B-16] of The Church in near 700 years.I like B-16 for his mind, and while I could appreciate the power of JP2's charisma, intellect always impresses me a whole lot more.
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posted on
05/22/2008 2:10:52 PM PDT
by
E. Cartman
(Screw MacCain and the elephant he rode in on.)
To: netmilsmom
allowed the smoke of Satan into our seminaries Since 'the smoke of Satan' entered our seminaries in the late 1950's, 1960's and early 1970's, I don't see what a priest, later bishop, in Poland could have done about it.
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posted on
05/22/2008 2:17:40 PM PDT
by
Lucius Cornelius Sulla
(All of this has happened before, and will happen again!)
To: E. Cartman
I do agree with you about Benedict's mind! A shrewd man, a fine balance to his good friend. If John Paul opened the gates of the Church fully, then Benedict is reminding us to tend it properly.
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posted on
05/22/2008 6:21:43 PM PDT
by
PandaRosaMishima
(she who tends the Nightunicorn; who is glosser of Titanic's wings)
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