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Do Protestants consider Catholics to be Christians? [open]
5/16/08 | me

Posted on 05/16/2008 3:19:30 PM PDT by netmilsmom

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>>I think the RCC doctrines are a product of the enemy<<

Please tell us where we stand here. Examples welcome, but I'm not sure that actual names can be used when quoting another FReeper, so date and thread title may be better.


TOPICS: Catholic; General Discusssion; Skeptics/Seekers; Theology
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To: Judith Anne

“Not to be disagreeable, but it’s a legitimate question”

How can it be a legitimate question when it is a personal transaction between an individual and God? How can anyone know if all Roman Catholics or all Protestants, for that matter, are Christians? It is the old joke, “Going to church doesn’t make you a Christian anymore than standing in a garage makes you a car”. How does anyone know what is in another’s heart?

One dare not give the “benefit of the doubt” when it comes to another’s salvation.


581 posted on 05/17/2008 8:32:31 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: netmilsmom
Have you seen the flak I've caught for quoting the Westminster Confession of Faith on a thread about the Westminster Confession of Faith?

I provided the official title, dutifully capitalized, with section numbers and a link to an authoritative Protestant website and there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth. Quelle horreur! I all but had a fatwah issued against me!

582 posted on 05/17/2008 8:36:28 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: Petronski; Dr. Eckleburg; Alex Murphy

***I’ll put it in the cabinet with the other emetics.***

It will do you no good there. Drink it and the Roman poison will be expelled from your body.


583 posted on 05/17/2008 8:36:57 PM PDT by Gamecock (The question is not, “Am I good enough to be a Christian?” rather “Am I good enough not to be?")
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To: Gamecock

I have no Roman poison in my body.


584 posted on 05/17/2008 8:37:58 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: netmilsmom; Judith Anne; Petronski; Dr. Eckleburg

“How about if we start a thread “Do Roman Catholics hate Protestants?”

“Can you JUST imagine how that would be worded?”

>>How about Straight from the Orthodox Presbyterian Church at snakehandlers.biz?<<

“Hmmmm, could be!”

Don’t waste your time. You have already answered your own question.


585 posted on 05/17/2008 8:39:27 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: blue-duncan

Really? What do you see as the answer?


586 posted on 05/17/2008 8:44:35 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: blue-duncan
One dare not give the “benefit of the doubt” when it comes to another’s salvation.

My father was a SeaBee in the Pacific in WWII. He often said that he did not fight so that some people could tell others what they had to believe.

God decides about salvation, who is saved, who is not. It is only my opinion, of course, but I am satisfied with Him and His decision-making.

587 posted on 05/17/2008 8:46:49 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: netmilsmom; Judith Anne

I’d like to start a thread entitled “Why do Protestants ignore context? Is it something in the water?”


588 posted on 05/17/2008 8:49:25 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: netmilsmom; Judith Anne
“Why do Protestants ignore context? Is it something in the water?”

Ach!

Should have read:

“Why do anti-Catholic Protestants ignore context? Is it something in the water?”

589 posted on 05/17/2008 8:51:25 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: Petronski
“Why do anti-Catholic Protestants ignore context? Is it something in the water?”

Well, context might clarify. :D

590 posted on 05/17/2008 8:58:13 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: firebrand

Thank you.


592 posted on 05/17/2008 9:01:12 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Petronski

Some people are ignorant and they want to stay that way.


593 posted on 05/17/2008 9:02:45 PM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: netmilsmom

Frankly, you all are nuts.

Christianity is the belief that Jesus is the Son of God. If you believe that and follow that, you are a Christian, regardless of the differences in practices. It’s that simple. Stop trying to make it harder than that.


594 posted on 05/17/2008 9:06:18 PM PDT by ShadowDancer ( Losers always look for excuses. Winners never quit.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Thank you so much for sharing your insights, dear sister in Christ!
595 posted on 05/17/2008 10:35:15 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: BillyBoy
I agree that the roots of the Unitarian Church are Protestant, but Unitarianism has moved its theology far from that of most Protestant churches.
597 posted on 05/17/2008 11:02:43 PM PDT by quadrant
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To: Dionysius
Discuss the issues all you want, but do NOT make it personal.

Also, this is an "open" thread on the Religion Forum.

Prayer threads are closed to debate of any kind.

Devotional threads are closed to debate of any kind.

Caucus threads are closed to any poster who is not a member of the caucus. If it says “Catholic Caucus” and you are not Catholic, do not post to the thread. However, if the poster of the caucus welcomes you, I will not boot you from the thread.

Ecumenic threads in this trial run are closed to all “anti” arguments. Posters who try to tear down other’s beliefs – or use subterfuge to accomplish the same goal – are the disrupters on ecumenic threads and will be booted from the thread and/or suspended.

Open threads are a town square – posters may argue for or against beliefs of any kind. They may tear down other's beliefs. They may ridicule, similar to the Smoky Backroom with the exception that a poster must never “make it personal.” Reading minds and attributing motives are forms of “making it personal.” Thin-skinned posters will be booted from “open” threads because in the town square, they are the disrupters.


598 posted on 05/17/2008 11:02:45 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: netmilsmom; blue-duncan
Well unless a poster is lifting a citation from somewhere other than the Vatican website it includes numbers. Therein is the lie.

Lie? I've posted the footnotes in one poast and I've shown you why I deleted the footnotes in another post. They're FOOTNOTES. I posted the words of #460 directly from the catechism. So the only "lie" is the one you're attempting to peddle by deflecting this discussion into absurdity.

Include the footnotes; don't include the footnotes. It doesn't matter one way or another. Read the catechism itself. #460. Is that so difficult for you to do?

And actually, the Vatican website is Vatican.va The website Vatican.org belongs to Gerald Beals in Calgary Canada according to Network Solutions who provides domains

LOL. Who care what Catholic site the catechism is excerpted from!?! Does the catechism change from one Catholic site to another?

But in checking my post #387 you will note I actually DID link to the Vatican's website at Vatican.va.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/catechism/p122a3p1.htm

Fancy that. Straight from the Vatican.

Again, you've offered no coherent reason for why you were so shocked by the verbatim words from #460 of YOUR catechism so you end up flailing around calling people liars when every word I posted was from the RCC catechism FROM THE VATICAN WEBSITE.

When you read the actual words of your own catechism FROM THE VATICAN WEBSITE why did you assume they must have been a lie from an anti-catholic website?

599 posted on 05/18/2008 12:37:47 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: blue-duncan
I am watching in amusement when the Protestant-haters predictibly revert to trivial "jots and tittles" when they have no answer for seeming heresy.

Yeah, but for laughs I'd rather watch a rerun of "The Office." This heresy stuff creeps me out.

"So are the paths of all that forget God; and the hypocrite's hope shall perish:

Whose hope shall be cut off, and whose trust shall be a spider's web." -- Job 8:13-14


600 posted on 05/18/2008 12:41:17 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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