Posted on 05/16/2008 3:19:30 PM PDT by netmilsmom
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>>I think the RCC doctrines are a product of the enemy<<
Please tell us where we stand here. Examples welcome, but I'm not sure that actual names can be used when quoting another FReeper, so date and thread title may be better.
Agreed! Along with the inspiration of the Holy Ghost, you can't go wrong!
I gave the proper reference. It was the Catechism of the Catholic Church," and you questioned the catechism's veracity.
As well you should.
FWIW, I expect FReepers to do their own homework and not to mis-attribute words and motives to other FReepers carelessly (and certainly to apologize when that happens.) That was good advice given to me years ago on this forum, and it's still good advice.
Just think of all you've learned since you "searched the Scriptures (or catechism in your case) daily, (to learn) whether those things were so." (Acts 17:11.) Almost Berean of you.
It's also interesting to note that the site you linked to (a site you apparently didn't like) actually referenced the Catechism correctly!
lol.
"So are the paths of all that forget God; and the hypocrite's hope shall perish:Whose hope shall be cut off, and whose trust shall be a spider's web." -- Job 8:13-14
CCC #460 refers to Theosis. The concept is not exactly new, nor particular to the Latin Rite of the Catholic Church.
I realize some folks think Christianity began in Geneva and the Bible was written by King James, but Christ started His Church 1900+ years ago, and the scholarship is a bit more thorough than some recent splinter group.
You should go further than quoting it: actually heed it.
NAsbU Job 19:b'SHEM Yah'shua25 "As for me, I know that my Redeemer lives, And at the last He will take His stand on the earth.
26 "Even after my skin is destroyed, Yet from my flesh I shall see God;
27 Whom I myself shall behold, And whom my eyes will see and not another. My heart faints within me!
They only reference made in post #387 by you is to the "Catechism of the Catholic Faith," which is NOT the proper reference.
...and you questioned the catechism's veracity.
No, she questioned YOUR reference to it.
424 posted on May 17, 2008 2:14:59 PM MDT by Petronski
If you were familiar with the Holy Word of Elohim you would
b'SHEM Yah'shua
realize that the Ekklesia began in Deuteronomy 4: 10
As Scripture tells us, it is definitely an "imputation."
Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin." -- Romans 4:3-8 "For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
I "participate" in a representative form of government.
I do not "become" the government. (I save that lie for the socialists.)
Christ's righteousness is imputed to us by God's mercy alone. It is Christ's righeousness that saves the fallen sinner; not his own.
"For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous." -- Romans 5:19
Not when my soul is at stake.
And the Catholic Church founded by Christ and promised in Matthew 16 began in the upper room at Pentecost (Acts 1).
You refuse to heed the warning in Job 8:13-14 when your soul is at stake? That makes no sense.
>> not to mis-attribute words and motives<<
Really, I don’t have to mis-attribute words or motives to FReepers. They show how they are all the time. Most give a proper reference from the source, not another site quoting it, (or none at all as the original post was) because anything can be taken out of context, without the footnotes as the original site found by a google search proved. There really wouldn’t have been a probem at all if one cited the real reference, from the horses mouth, so to speak
As for the lecture, I’ve been around a while and both my parents have been gone for over 25 years. After years of listening to the most hateful people throw lectures to cover the vile, I’ve learned to look by it. One learns lots in years of experience.
Trust me, people’s motivations are not lost on me. Not mind reading, just past practice, as my wise father used to say.
Gotta go open the camper, Sister in Christ. So you’ll have to go on without me.
It is sad to see how shallow the theology and scholarship is in a 70-year-old splinter denomination.
We shall know them by their fruits, and with this thread, you have built for us a world-class fruit market.
Believe the myth, if you bet your immortal soul on Nicea.b'SHEM Yah'shuaMembership in a man-made corporation will not save anyone.
I prefer to call on the NAME of the L-rd: YHvH is my salvation
to quote Yah'shua
NAsbU Mark 12:29 Jesus answered, "The foremost is, 'HEAR, O ISRAEL! THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD;
NAsbU Romans 10:13 for "WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED."
I do not gamble with my soul at all. I worship Christ as I am called to do by His Church.
I am not a member of a man-made corporation and have no expectation to be saved by one.
God remains God and men remain men. Some men are condemned and some men are acquitted. Our sanctification during our life time takes a life time, and we remain sinners until the end (although by the gift of the indwelling Holy Spirit we desire to sin less and less.) Our glorification at our death is instantaneous when we behold the face of God in glory.
It's important not to mix up the Creator with the creation. It leads to all sorts of nasty errors, like praying to dead people and believing a woman is the "co-redeemer."
Reading the minds of other posters is a form of "making it personal."
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