Posted on 05/16/2008 3:19:30 PM PDT by netmilsmom
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>>I think the RCC doctrines are a product of the enemy<<
Please tell us where we stand here. Examples welcome, but I'm not sure that actual names can be used when quoting another FReeper, so date and thread title may be better.
***The ancient Fathers held the unanimous conviction that salvation cannot be achieved outside the Church. St. Ireneus taught that “where the Church is, there is the spirit of God, and where the spirit of God is, there is the Church and all grace.” (35 ) Origen simply declared, “Outside the Church nobody will be saved.” ***
Direct quote. Clear as a bell. If you are outside the church you will not be saved. If you are not saved, you are going to hell. Only those inside the Catholic church will be saved. When they are saying “Church” they mean the Catholic church. Peroid.
He most certainly is.
Could you translate that for me? I’m assuming it’s the Word of God, but is the rest Hebrew or Yiddish?
And I’ve been meaning to ask for a long time and now I feel free because it’s my open thread. Why do you use inappropriate capital letters? Is it a code like the Bible code readers?
Let’s just say that Catholic priest is a radical liberation theology holdover from the 1970’s. I know Cardinal George of Chicago has had verbal feuds, but until he does something outright heretical or illegal (which God forbid, I hope does not happen), he has rights as a Priest and there is little the Cardinal can do. As I stated, he is a Catholic liberation theology type priest who works in an inner City Chicago parish that is in the same neighborhood as Rev. J Wright and Farrakan and from what I have read, gives the good Cardinal in Chicago many a headache.
Read the WHOLE article, slowly. Do not pick and choose quotes.
Thats like saying Americans aren’t defective but America is or I support the troops but not their mission.
Pure sophistry.
I would never be so self-righteous as to say any Christian church is “defective” like a three-legged dog or a blind cat.I may disagree with doctrines,but I don’t state that I,or WE believe that they are “defective.” Wrong,misguided,even unChristian perhaps,but “defective?”thats the word of a patronizing supremacist.
B-16s statement was subtle bigotry and unholy hubris pure and simple.He has yet to withdraw it though Catholics of all stripes have rationalized,to their own satisfaction at any rate,his “meant no harm.”
A Strongs Conconrance has other info but it's not a commentary. Dr. Strong numbered every different word in the Bible and words are thus sorted and identified by their Strong's number. Since most lexicons use Strongs' numbers it is very easy to find and research the specific word in question as part of one's word studies. I prefer to use a reverse interlinear but a Strongs is still a powerful tool.
Direct quote from what? Where is your link so we can see the context?
I think he is a communist just like the Berrigan brothers. A wolf in sheep’s clothing.
I already have the Holy Spirit, big ol freeper. I have opened my heart and my mind to Him, many years ago. I appreciate your prayers and your love. I know many Catholics who do NOT have the Holy Spirit. What about them?
That should have had quotes around it, I didn’t say it Happy Rain did.
You can. Many backslide, especially when things get rough for them. But God is always in the business of drawing them back to Himself.
>>I would never be so self-righteous as to say any Christian church is “defective” <<
I guess that’s why you’re not the head of a church.
You can remain offended, or you can understand that the head of any church cannot say that another is “Just as good as ours” That’s just silly.
And if you’re going to heaven anyway, what do you care what some white haired guy in Rome says? I don’t care that the LDS baptize me after I die. I’m dead, I don’t mind.
And honestly, if anyone said I was defective, I would say, Yup sure am. I’m a sinner.
Again...would put them in the same category as non-Catholic religious and secular sexual abuse:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/700719/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/698586/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1072105/posts
Are the Catholics Christians?
And I’ve been meaning to ask for a long time and now I feel free because it’s my open thread. Why do you use inappropriate capital letters? Is it a code like the Bible code readers?
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua means peace ( or rest ) in the Holy Name of "Jesus"( Yah'shua ) Yah'shua means YHvH is my salvation. Which is why we must call on His NAME It is Hebrew, the language that "Jesus" created for His people to speek.
“until he does something outright heretical”
Embracing liberation theology is heretical and Cardinal George has no courage.
If you believe the doctrine is wrong, isn’t that a perceived defect?
If you thought someone was about to walk blindly into a pit of venomous snakes, would you be obliged to tell them?
I love your tagline!!!!
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