Posted on 05/14/2008 10:16:49 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg
Your question has nothing to do with Catholicism.
All I can find from Catholics is unqualified support for the notion which, as the article that began this thread shows, has been around a long time.
Wrong. The important thing is that this is a strawman argument falsely claiming that the Church “worships” Mary and then slamming the Church for doing so. The EXACT same kind of lie that Jack Chick and many other haters tell. It is false to fact. It is a lie. One in a long string of lies posted by Dr E.
I’ve noticed that the Scripture normally drawn on to support anti Catholic diatribe is very unconnected and unrelated.
Pauline admonishment of the various renegade churches under his bishopric is also drawn from, arranged, multiplied, massaged, kneaded and then spewed forth in self-congratulatory fashion.
I think that it galls them to the core that deep within their souls that they know, or at least strongly suspect, that we are right and they are wrong.
It is up to us to convert the heathen, the heretic and the apostate. It might be a useful exercise to sort them into their categories.
Not at all. I said that you were DRAWING tares AWAY, not that you WERE a tare.
What you are endeavoring to do is a truly noble thing. DRAWING tares AWAY is truly the work of the Lord, even though you may not understand it.
I'm not being facetious in the least bit.
My personal (i.e., this is me speaking, not the Catholic Church) belief is that the harvest is nigh. Doing what you're doing is a necessary thing prior to the harvest.
(Oh, btw, I'm pinging Narses out of courtesy, as this was how I was brought to this thread)
Some Calvinists believe in reincarnation. Am I to assume that’s your belief too?
(Or are they unregenerate and just think they’d been chosen?)
I guess you missed the post, Mark, but it was Narses who brought up Jack Chick.
It is not wrong.
This sermon was written by Charles Spurgeon long before Jack Chick was even born. It is classic reformation belief.
Look in any protestant history book and you will see it to be true.
What part do you object to most vehemently?
***Mary was the mother of Jesus as well as other children. ***
Well posted except for this. It is a belief of the Church that she was not.
And if you'll note, I pinged him and said PLEASE PEOPLE (plural).
“What part do you object to most vehemently?”
The lies. Pure ans simple, the lies.
The fact that the lies were told before Jack Chick was born doesn’t change the fact that they are THE SAME LIES Jack Chick sells in his hatefilled tracts.
If so, then to say Mary is a co-redeemer is to deify Mary, which several RCs dispute is occurring their churches.
Have you found this in the Catechism of the Catholic Church? Do you have a link to the original source? Besides Spurgeon, where can it be found anywhere?
You have to become angry and resort to yelling about what the RCC teaches rather than what the Bible teaches. There's a definite disconnect there somewhere.
I'll say. Where does the Catholic Church teach the sentence above? Or Co-redeemer for that matter: where is that in the Catechism?
There's nothing confusing about it. Deifying Mary is prohibited by the Catholic Church.
we are told in Scripture to kneel to none but Christ alone.
Where does Scripture prohibit all kneeling except to Christ?
Is a redeemer of men's souls a diety?
There is one redeemer of men's souls and He is the deity.
>>I think it’s progress that you do not believe Mary is the “co-redeemer” as so many of your fellow Catholics believe.<<
Unless it comes from the CCC, you are not quoting the Catholic Church.
Where is your citation?
“Redeemer” does not equal “co-redeemer.” Catholicism doctrine does not teach “co-redeemer” status of anything.
Catholics dispute the deification of Mary in Catholicism because there IS NO deification of Mary in Catholicism.
As I said, your question has nothing to do with Catholicism.
>>Some Calvinists believe in reincarnation. Am I to assume that’s your belief too?<<
Really?
Wow!
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