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Bible Bill Passes (TN) House
WRCB Chattanooga ^ | May 14, 2008 | Rachel Withers

Posted on 05/14/2008 8:53:00 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana

Nashville, TN (WRCB-TV/Associated Press) A controversial bill requiring Tennessee's public schools to offer an elective bible course is making its way to Gov. Phil Bredesen.

The legislation unanimously passed the Senate last week and was approved overwhelmingly in the House Tuesday. If Gov. Bredesen signs the legislation, public schools will soon be required to offer bible as an elective course taught with an approved textbook. The Tennessee Department of Education would create a uniform bible curriculum.

This legislation does come with some safeguards. It prohibits the use of any religious test when assigning teachers to the bible class.

For many Tennessee school districts, this idea is nothing new. In Hamilton county, schools have offered an elective bible class for the last 87 years.

Stay with Eyewitness News and wrcbtv.com for the latest updates on what Gov. Bredesen decides.


TOPICS: Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: bible; curriculum; education; tennessee
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To: Tennessee Nana
A separate elective course is completely unnecessary. Given the Bible's massive importance to English literature and the Western canon, it should be a key component to higher-level high school English courses.

This shouldn't be a church/state issue at all. It shouldn't be Bible Study or a theological look. I think even the most fervently religious agree. Do you really want a schoolteacher supercedeing your priest or pastor for religious teachings? I thought not.

21 posted on 05/14/2008 10:52:00 AM PDT by Reaganomical
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To: Tennessee Nana

I’ll be screaming right along with the ACLU. Just as I don’t want the school system to teach my kids about sex, I don’t want them to teach my kids about religion either.

Besides, how would it sit with you if you lived in a Muslim district of America and the only religious class your kid’s school offered was studying the Koran? That would bother me. To be fair about religion, you almost have to teach them all. That assures two things: it would be very expensive and very incompetent.


22 posted on 05/14/2008 11:01:47 AM PDT by onguard
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To: Tennessee Nana
Comparative Religions ???

That would be another good idea for a course, but not necessarily. Had what I mentioned been available in high school. I would have taken all three.

I am an atheist, and I believe in the separation of church and state, and strongly oppose any form of religious indoctrination in public schools. But religion, comparatively and individually, is perfectly valid as an academic subject. Only the students lose when it is banished from schools.

Of the pitfalls though, I would be worried that the teacher chosen to teach about a religion is a hater of that religion. I wouldn't want Dawkins teaching the Bible, Robertson teaching the Koran or David Duke teaching the Tanakh. I'd also be afraid of having an anti-Catholic teaching the Bible.

23 posted on 05/14/2008 11:13:28 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Tennessee Nana

Associated Press Style (the standard for rules for spelling, punctuation, etc. for publications) requires that “Bible” be capitalized. The author (or editor) intentionally lower-cased “Bible,” likely in an effort to diminish it.


24 posted on 05/14/2008 11:55:21 AM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: onguard

if you lived in a Muslim district of America and the only religious class your kid’s school offered was studying the Koran?
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That is already hasppening in the public schools...


25 posted on 05/14/2008 12:20:03 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Theo
Associated Press Style (the standard for rules for spelling, punctuation, etc. for publications) requires that “Bible” be capitalized. The author (or editor) intentionally lower-cased “Bible,” likely in an effort to diminish it.

Good catch. In this context, "Bible" is the title of a book and should thus always be capitalized. I don't believe and I still capitalize "God" when referring to the Christian one when its usage is as a proper noun. I still don't capitalize "him" or "his" in referring to God though. It is grammatically incorrect, but an exception made by the believers.

26 posted on 05/14/2008 1:18:15 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Tennessee Nana
Have you ever noticed terrible things happen when the goyim read the Bible?

The Spanish Inquisition

The Salem Witch Trials

The Yearning for a pork chop ranch in Texas??? (they have nothing to do with Zion!)

Gee, what's next?

27 posted on 05/14/2008 1:28:14 PM PDT by Jeremiah Jr (What would John Lennon do?)
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To: Tennessee Nana

“In Hamilton county, schools have offered an elective bible class for the last 87 years.”

I’ve only seen a few comments here that make any sense. Teaching the bible, be it as history or as a comparative class,or as literature, isn’t indoctrinating children with “religion”.

I get the feeling that some are seriously afraid that the kids might actually LEARN morals and standards from reading the Bible!

Oh and for the few, there is no such a thing as “separation of church and state”, at least in the guise of keeping religion out of state business. It is and has always been the intent to keep the STATE out of religion.


28 posted on 05/14/2008 2:33:55 PM PDT by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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To: Jeremiah Jr

This goyim loves the God that is in the midst of Israel...

And His Word...

And His land of Israel...

And His people, Israel..

If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand forget her cunning. If I do not remember thee, let my tongue cleave to the roof of my mouth; if I prefer not Jerusalem above my chief joy. Psalm 137:5, 6


29 posted on 05/14/2008 3:01:00 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

Leftist scum are quite capable of butchering the Bible.


30 posted on 05/14/2008 5:44:27 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: Vaquero

Many schools teach it as literature.


31 posted on 05/14/2008 6:12:38 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: FRForever

Hey, more than half of it is the Jewish covenant. Your money pays for a lot more crap than the Bible would and it IS elective, FR.


32 posted on 05/14/2008 6:14:14 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: FRForever

No, because Judaism and Christianity are the main religions in America.


33 posted on 05/14/2008 6:15:09 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: antiRepublicrat

Robertson is certainly not a Jew hater. He supports the Jews and Israel all the time. Cheez.


34 posted on 05/14/2008 6:16:41 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: swmobuffalo

That’s right, swmobuffalo. People have believed that lie long enough.


35 posted on 05/14/2008 6:17:54 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Vaquero
its not the governments business to educate religious doctrine. like sex education in the schools. It has no business there. It should (or should not if you feel that way) be taught at home.

Actually it's not the governments place to educate our children period. That was meant for the church and private enterprises to build and support. The system worked well for our nation till Washington politicians took it over in 1953 UNDER THE GOP's WATCH.

The Department of Education formerly the Department of Education, Health, and Welfare, was created under Ike's term as a Cabinet level position. The churches also did a fine job of running {oversite of} our hospitals as well as our welfare system till government took that over as well in one act. This IIRC is an elective course not a requirement. The founders were not against religious teachings in school but rather the prohibition of such. The Bible in our nations early years often doubled as the school primer in reading.

36 posted on 05/14/2008 6:35:02 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Three Blind Rats. Three Blind Rats, See How They Run. See How They Run. Hillbomacain)
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To: Tennessee Nana
I'm 50 years old from a rural Knoxville area county. Up through grade school we had the morning Devotion, The Lord's Prayer, and Pledge of Allegiance. Actually up till 7th grade we had a preacher who came to the school and read a Bible Story to the entire school. NOBODY protested it.

School was a safe place to be then. The worse thing to happen was getting hurt on the play ground. Even in my high school the principal a preacher himself actually knew all the students by first name and often enough spent his summers at his seniors weddings officiating them.

Then came MEGA school. Sense of community was gone as two schools were combined. A Principal and two assistants couldn't maintain order in that school. Today MEGA school has a high pregnancy rate. Guess where the girls get pregnant at the most there? Not at hope, not in their cars on a date, but at school.

As a nation we tossed GOD out of the classrooms of our schools and yet we expect his Divine watch and protection over our children in an institution we forbid the mention of Him or His Son's name much less a prayer? This will only mean that the void is filled by an opposing force as even nature itself arbores a vacuum. GOD's presence will not be where we do not welcome it.

Absence of GOD in the spiritual realm means the devil himself dwells. This was by no means the Founders and Framers intent to keep GOD out of school or public gatherings even state functions for that matter. They were open and vocal about their beliefs both public and private. The hand on the Bible for swearing in was established by George Washington himself. One POTUS in U.S. history refused to take his oath of office because it fell on the Sabbath Day.

37 posted on 05/14/2008 6:58:30 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Three Blind Rats. Three Blind Rats, See How They Run. See How They Run. Hillbomacain)
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To: cva66snipe

Wonderful post. Thank you!


38 posted on 05/14/2008 7:00:39 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: cva66snipe

Thanks cva

:)


39 posted on 05/14/2008 7:05:12 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana; Marysecretary

My pleasure. Almost two generations have come of age since my youth. My grandchildren will not know nor enjoy the United States I grew up in. Sadly enough many fail to realize what damage ones like Madalyn Murray actually did to our nation and future generations. Many persons living and voting today never saw what it was like before those court cases. GOD help you if your raising a child in todays school system even in the rural areas. They are a war zone in many ways and we as a nation are losing that battle and our children because of it. I hope the governor signs this one into law.


40 posted on 05/14/2008 7:15:18 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Three Blind Rats. Three Blind Rats, See How They Run. See How They Run. Hillbomacain)
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