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To: DelphiUser
This is why I challenged you, for if you have truly received an answer from God, you would be encouraging others to go and get that answer, and I have seen no evidence of that on this forum. your words are not consistent with your actions as I have observed human behavior to be when impacted by a revelation. So, either start acting right, or explain, or I will keep asking.

Nice try, DU, but the statement above directly challenges my testimony FROM GOD.

I challenged your anti-testimony of the Book of Mormon, not a testimony of Jesus. If I had indeed challenged your testimony of Jesus, then I would be in peril as well.

my logic still stands about your "testimony", and you never did answer the questions

As to answering questions, why would I even consider answering charges regarding my personal relationship with God from someone who has NO authority to charge, question OR challenge?

Look to your OWN "peril" as a follower of a charlatan instead of a follower of Jesus.

This exchange beautifully illuminates the hypocracy of the mormon's "challenge" to read the BOM and pray about it", by showing the attitude of mormons towards those who pray, study and receive a warning from the Holy Spirit about their false "scripture" being sold to the world.

Mormons consider them to be liars if they don't receive the message that Joseph Smith is a true prophet of God.

Some "challenge" that is!

2,712 posted on 07/19/2008 6:48:37 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tagline on vacation during the grand experiment.)
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To: greyfoxx39; DelphiUser; Godzilla

DU - “If I had indeed challenged your testimony of Jesus, then I would be in peril as well.”

UnScriptural statement...

We are only in trouble if we reject Jesus, not a “messager” of any kind...

Some people hear the REAL Gospel preached many times before they accept the saving Grace that Jesus provided on the Cross...

If what DU said was true, there be a lot of born again Christians who would be going to Hell anyway...

But DU is wrong...

Jesus, Himself, said..

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6

Mat 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

Mat 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. Matthew 12:31, 32

And Jesus, Himself, on “eternal peril”

Jhn 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Jhn 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

Jhn 3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

Jhn 3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. John 3:15-21

Mar 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. Mark 16:15, 16

Paul never took credit for a “witness” or threatened anyone with “eternal peril”....

1Cr 3:5 ¶ Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?

1Cr 3:6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.

1Cr 3:7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.

1Cr 3:8 Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.

1Cr 3:9 For we are labourers together with God: ye are God’s husbandry, ye are God’s building.

1Cr 3:10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.

1Cr 3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 1 Corinthians 3:5-11


2,738 posted on 07/19/2008 10:53:29 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: greyfoxx39
Nice try, DU, but the statement above directly challenges my testimony FROM GOD.

Anti's challenge my testimony "FROM GOD" all the time, so? I did not challenge your testimony of God, that gets you ETERNAL PERIL.

As to answering questions, why would I even consider answering charges regarding my personal relationship with God from someone who has NO authority to charge, question OR challenge?

I was not asking you for personal details about your relationship with God, I claimed no more authority than Curiosity, and have no more authority to question your testimony than Antis have to question mine, but they do and you don't seem to complain, in fact, you are one of them.

Look to your OWN "peril" as a follower of a charlatan instead of a follower of Jesus.

I think I'm just going to keel over and die from the shock of that charge... NOT!

Do you guys ever get tired of claiming we worship Joseph Smith and not Jesus?

It's such a blatant, easily provable lie, that it's funny to watch you guys pull out that old cannard over and over...

This exchange beautifully illuminates the hypocracy of the mormon's "challenge" to read the BOM and pray about it", by showing the attitude of mormons towards those who pray, study and receive a warning from the Holy Spirit about their false "scripture" being sold to the world.

Mormons consider them to be liars if they don't receive the message that Joseph Smith is a true prophet of God.


So, theoretically, if an anti (where anti's have stated that lying in fighting Mormons is OK) Lies and saying they have read the Book of Moron and Prayed about it in all earnestness, and relieved a resounding NO! When in reality all they did was post about doing such a thing, how is anyone supposed to know? if they ask questions about the ill thought out story, they are branded as denying a "TESTIMONY FROM GOD" If they mildly sit by and allow the false claim to succeed, they are "proved wrong" by a lie.

This would be a masterful set up, except that it's too obvious, A group who teaches that it is OK to lie if necessary when Debating Mormons cannot be questioned about telling a lie?

Some "challenge" that is!

Actually, it is. Anti's who claim to have taken the challenge then run from questions like a cow from a branding iron! Simple questions go unanswered, like "how did you receive a negative answer?", "What exactly were you asking God in your prayer?", "What exactly were your preparations for an answer from on high?"

If these questions sound familiar, they should, they were the questions that I asked you in my post after you had claimed a negative response, and you never answered a one of them.

Why? I'm not exactly asking for details, I just want to know if you prayed about the Book of Mormon or some thing else, since antis routinely make fun of "burners" I wanted to know the method of communication. And since in my opinion asking such a question should not be done lightly, I asked what preparations you made for receiving an answer from on High (If for example, you had said, well, I set down my beer and my pizza, asked my mistress to stop that for a moment, and turned off the porno and prayed... I'd say Houston we have found the problem!) I am not insinuating that you actually DO any of these things, just that I hate to assume when I can simply ask what preparations you made...)

For anyone who cares, the "Testimony" post can be found here.
My response here.
2,782 posted on 07/20/2008 1:10:00 AM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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