No, they probably mean this one:
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Posted on 05/08/2008 5:04:47 PM PDT by Grig
I am posting this on behalf of many LDS freepers. They will post their own 'signature' to this in the comments below. --- Some of you have noticed lately a lot of LDS (ie: Mormon) threads here on FR. I'm going to tell you why.
For many years there have been several active LDS freepers here. We post to all the forums on relevant issues, and were happy to have a site where conservative values were so openly welcomed.
Those conservative values include faith in God, and freedom of religion. We fully respect the rights of all posters to express their opinions and views on religious matters, even when people choose to use those rights to express criticism of our own faith. We also support the ideas embodied in FR rules against religion bashing. There is no need for hostility and there should be no room for bigotry on FR. Every religion has it's miracles and mysteries. Every faith has things in it that are not or can not be proven, and things that run contrary to what secular science would have us believe. Someone mature and confident in their own faith generally doesn't feel the need to belittle the faith of others.
We have, to the best of our ability, conducted ourselves with civility and dignity. We do not feel that that respect has been returned by some posters (putting it mildly).
When Mormon missionaries were murdered, the moderators were kept busy pulling jubilant posts off the thread. When Elizabeth Smart was abducted from her home, we contended for months with posters who appeared to be motivated by religious bigotry doing all they could to smear the family and accuse the father. Several posters openly admitted their religious motivation in opposing Mitt Romney and confessed that no matter how conservative any Mormon was, they would never vote for one for President of the USA. When the Pope died, I don't think any Mormon poster posted anything unkind, yet the thread about the passing of our President recently needed many comments removed.
Nearly every thread having any connection with Mormons, or Utah winds up being hijacked by anti-Mormon activists who copy and paste the same false accusations over and over even when it has been clearly and factually pointed out to them on multiple occasions that they are bearing false witness against our faith. Everything possible is done by these activists to make FR a hostile place for Mormons, and for at least some of them, bashing Mormonism is all they do here. Their most recent project is trying to blur the fact that the polygamous FLDS is a separate and distinct religion from ours, just as Lutherans are a separate and distinct religion from Catholicism.
In our opinion, such poster do a great disservice to FR and to their fellow freepers by spreading disinformation and promoting hostility towards a people known for walking the walk of conservative values.
Why the moderators here don't see the behavior of these anti-Mormon activists as religion bashing is a mystery to us, but it is the moderators call to make and we respect their right to do so. That doesn't mean we have to be passive however. We have all spent many hours refuting the accusations leveled at our faith, but these wind up buried deep in a flood of comments, effectively shouting us down.
Recently some of us have decided to take a more proactive approach. Rather than try to wrestle the pig into taking a bath, we are just going to hose it down. We will actively define our faith here rather than just respond to accusations.
So expect to see lots of Mormon threads, now and for as long as we see fit to keep posting them (although probably not as many as there are Catholic threads). They will be about our basic doctrines and responses to common accusations. If you want to know what our faith is about, read the articles we post. We will post them as open threads and I encourage you to compare the difference in tone and spirit between what we post and what our critics say.
“Frankly, I’ve never seen anything like it.”
[Behold! The Power of the LDS on Free Republic! ]
The truly interesting thing is that this is all just a repetition of what happened in Kirtland, and Far West, and Nauvoo and so many places in between. The fortunate thing is this internecine warfare happens now on the Internet and no one gets killed.
However the outlines are the same. The Mormons would move into an area en masse, and when the inevitable frictions arose, they would claim persecution and a militia would be formed. In the meantime, Apostates would become disillusioned and a force to push them along to the next county or state.
Now I don’t wish to justify this pattern, only to point out its eerie existence.
Thank you tomkat for your views and years on FR. Bears repeating.
That would help explain all the noob apologists appearing on these threads.
Fast Coyote - I know you are well versed in Mormon history. More than I am. I have researched your claims (isn't the Internet a great invention?) - and sadly, I have found out that everything you ever posted (in my opinion) was true.
This isn't even close - the FACTS are so against what the LDS posters tell us that if this were an NFL game, they would be on 4th Down and 100 yards to go.
I myself have seen the anger turned into hate. Old Mountain man (and no - I won't courtesy ping him because he does not deserve any courtesy here given his behavior) has acted with such thuggery and private threats that it proves your accusation (in my opinion) exactly.
No, they probably mean this one:
If he happens to read this - Yes as a matter of fact, I can cite a post number.
[Their most recent project is trying to blur the fact that the polygamous FLDS is a separate and distinct religion from ours, just as Lutherans are a separate and distinct religion from Catholicism.]
That really is an egregious interpretation. Lutherans still consider themselves catholics, just without the incursion of indulgences and saints etc. I have never been to a Lutheran church in which a pastor preached the damnation of the catholics.
So no, Lutherans are no more a “separate and distinct religion” from catholics than the FLDS is a “separate and distinct religion” from the LDS.
But you point again to the constant wash and spin cycle that occurs on these threads to launder out clear statements of fact.
My Mormon name is DeLanna Corneliabell!
What's yours?
I put that generator up on my MySpace page.
My poor Niece-in-law got a really hippy sounding one!
“Having been a loyal and supportive FReeper for a long time, it’s my considered opinion that the tacit policy decision to allow so much religion spamming in the News/Activism section works to the detriment of this site in particular, and conservatism in general.”
Here here.
Cries of persecution are not in themselves Proof of persecution. Allowing one group indulgences to cure perceived grievances sets up an imbalance not easily righted.
Nice. You were thrown a bone.
Was that spittled out as a sexual innuendo or just the usual insult? I wouldn’t want to read the poster’s mind don’tchaknow.
Your version is that you are EX-Prebyterian.
Now that you have LEARNED the truth; could you tell us just what Joseph Smith 'learned' that was UNTRUE about Presbyterianism?
It is, after all; the FOUNDATION of the LDS Organization®.
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quoted in its entirety...
Helps to have the Religion Mod in your pocket, evidently.
Legitimate questions, framed within forum guidelines, were recently deleted from one of your threads, questions as to the inordinate numbers of doctrinal harangues appearing under the News/Activism banner.
Kept in the Religion forum where they belong, y’all can obviously post all the 50,000 word nonsense the Robinsons and/or your ISP will tolerate.
But the deluge of this stuff in the ‘News/Activism’ forums seems to me not only to be a flagrant disregard for the very same forum guidelines the rest of us are supposed to operate under, but also diminishes the credibility and integrity of FreeRepublic as one of the few legitimate forums for the conservative political thoughts/views of the average joe.
If this post gets me banned from the site, so be it.
I’ve been around this site since ‘98 under a long forgotten login, and since ‘00 under this one.
I’ve logged a couple thousand miles and a couple dozen hours helping man the barricades against the marxist scum in DC.
I’ve also contributed financially to this site over the years.
I’ve never aspired to be one of prolific pens of FR because frankly my other interests and work keep my time too limited to allow it, but this is where I’ve chosen to get my NEWS for some time, posting random thoughts as they struck me, most often in a (hopefully) humorous vein, as God knows we’ve needed some smiles the past couple decades for sanity maintenance.
Having been a loyal and supportive FReeper for a long time, it’s my considered opinion that the tacit policy decision to allow so much religion spamming in the News/Activism section works to the detriment of this site in particular, and conservatism in general.
If I had any inclination to find out more about LDS, there’s a whole Internet out there and I can do my own damned research.
But if I’d had no previous exposure to FR and got here by whatever circuitous route and saw 14 threads about mormon stuff on my first visit, it’d be a real good bet I’d think I’d stumbled into a big mistake and would NOT be back.
If the Robinsons have chosen to take a different tack re the religious/secular, it is of course their site and their right; I do however find oddly ‘coincidental’ the timing of this apparent policy shift in the midst of Jim’s recent hospitalization/recovery.
(which I hope is quickly better, Jim :)
This wasn’t/isn’t intended to be an opus, but if that’s the way it plays out, life will go on and I’ll find something else to take it’s place and/or just burrow deeper into the ol’ bunker.
Cuz in the end I’m just one old guy who works with his hands out here in flyover; and folks like me have gotten kinda used to being ignored, and I’ve never been under any delusion that FR or the RightFight in this country can’t manage without me.
And not that it’s anybody’s business, but I do believe in a God, but certainly not the one represented by these LDS threads/adherents.
/10yrs ?
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Thanks for sharing your story with us. Those two Mormon fellas, I’m sure, just loved helping out in a time of need. Just that simple. Honestly, they will gladly help strangers move, do yard work, whatever. They don’t ask for anything in return and they are lead by the Holy Spirit. I really believe that.
My husband tells about when his first wife came down with breast cancer - maybe 30 or so years ago - and he had to go to work every day to make sure he had health insurance. He took a job as a hard rock miner. He never fails to cry when he tells of coming home at the end of the day and see Mormon ladies in the house having prepared the evening meal, helping the kids, washing dishes and cleaning. Do you know she lived another twenty years before the cancer came back and took her life.
Our church is not unique. When Christians serve each other, they are in the service of Heavenly Father and our Lord Jesus Christ. Amen.
Love you and thanks again for sharing from your heart.
Thank you for your kind words, and I am glad that you enjoyed my story...
Grig, I’m curious if you have kept a count or roster of signatories to the thread.
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