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Why so many LDS threads?
08-May-2008 | Grig

Posted on 05/08/2008 5:04:47 PM PDT by Grig

I am posting this on behalf of many LDS freepers. They will post their own 'signature' to this in the comments below. --- Some of you have noticed lately a lot of LDS (ie: Mormon) threads here on FR. I'm going to tell you why.

For many years there have been several active LDS freepers here. We post to all the forums on relevant issues, and were happy to have a site where conservative values were so openly welcomed.

Those conservative values include faith in God, and freedom of religion. We fully respect the rights of all posters to express their opinions and views on religious matters, even when people choose to use those rights to express criticism of our own faith. We also support the ideas embodied in FR rules against religion bashing. There is no need for hostility and there should be no room for bigotry on FR. Every religion has it's miracles and mysteries. Every faith has things in it that are not or can not be proven, and things that run contrary to what secular science would have us believe. Someone mature and confident in their own faith generally doesn't feel the need to belittle the faith of others.

We have, to the best of our ability, conducted ourselves with civility and dignity. We do not feel that that respect has been returned by some posters (putting it mildly).

When Mormon missionaries were murdered, the moderators were kept busy pulling jubilant posts off the thread. When Elizabeth Smart was abducted from her home, we contended for months with posters who appeared to be motivated by religious bigotry doing all they could to smear the family and accuse the father. Several posters openly admitted their religious motivation in opposing Mitt Romney and confessed that no matter how conservative any Mormon was, they would never vote for one for President of the USA. When the Pope died, I don't think any Mormon poster posted anything unkind, yet the thread about the passing of our President recently needed many comments removed.

Nearly every thread having any connection with Mormons, or Utah winds up being hijacked by anti-Mormon activists who copy and paste the same false accusations over and over even when it has been clearly and factually pointed out to them on multiple occasions that they are bearing false witness against our faith. Everything possible is done by these activists to make FR a hostile place for Mormons, and for at least some of them, bashing Mormonism is all they do here. Their most recent project is trying to blur the fact that the polygamous FLDS is a separate and distinct religion from ours, just as Lutherans are a separate and distinct religion from Catholicism.

In our opinion, such poster do a great disservice to FR and to their fellow freepers by spreading disinformation and promoting hostility towards a people known for walking the walk of conservative values.

Why the moderators here don't see the behavior of these anti-Mormon activists as religion bashing is a mystery to us, but it is the moderators call to make and we respect their right to do so. That doesn't mean we have to be passive however. We have all spent many hours refuting the accusations leveled at our faith, but these wind up buried deep in a flood of comments, effectively shouting us down.

Recently some of us have decided to take a more proactive approach. Rather than try to wrestle the pig into taking a bath, we are just going to hose it down. We will actively define our faith here rather than just respond to accusations.

So expect to see lots of Mormon threads, now and for as long as we see fit to keep posting them (although probably not as many as there are Catholic threads). They will be about our basic doctrines and responses to common accusations. If you want to know what our faith is about, read the articles we post. We will post them as open threads and I encourage you to compare the difference in tone and spirit between what we post and what our critics say.


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To: sevenbak

As I said, I’m not going to trade scriptures with you. If you can interpret John 10: 16 as telling us that Jesus visited North America, you can pour any meaning into any verse.


361 posted on 05/09/2008 7:27:38 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Monkey Face; Elsie; greyfoxx39; Osage Orange; Colofornian; Utah Binger; MHGinTN; metmom
For a sky pilot, that was a pretty low blow. Obviously, you took it personally. Shame on you.

Wow. That was a pretty pathetic attempt to turn the tables.

Care to try again?

It isn't me who is comparing Christians to pigs. It was the LDS poster who started this thread.

You don't dictate what offends me, or does not. Neither I you.

If you don't like that, you are fully empowered to leave. Free Republic participation is voluntary. But if something is posted here, everyone knows their ideas, words, and arguments are open to challenge. That is why this is a discussion forum.

Homepage: My Mormon name is Monteray Faunice!

Should we call you this from now on?

362 posted on 05/09/2008 7:27:45 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I wasn't in church during the time when the statements were made.")
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To: CharlesWayneCT
My job is to clearly articulate MY understanding of scripture, not to judge whether someone else has reached an understanding.

Yup; we can't do much more than this.

363 posted on 05/09/2008 7:28:15 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: JRochelle
As for Scientology, I think that religion is whacked. Made up by a weirdo. :)

 
 
 

Scientology is a newer religion than Mormonism...
 


 
 
 
 
Don't make fun of them,
they have a right to have
their moronic beliefs respected.
 
 
 
 
 

364 posted on 05/09/2008 7:29:24 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sevenbak
There were vineyards in So. Utah to make their own sacramental wine.

What happened to them?

WHY do you guys drink WATER instead?

365 posted on 05/09/2008 7:30:47 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sevenbak

It’s not the only doctrine that matters. It is the doctrine that most clearly points out the vast difference between Christians and Mormons.


366 posted on 05/09/2008 7:31:27 AM PDT by DManA
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To: SkyPilot

You can call me anything you want, and you obviously will. But that won’t change who I am. Mormon-bashers, when not able to draw a Mormon into a “debate” usually head for the home page and find something there to get nasty about.

No personal attacks, remember? Aren’t we all FRiends?

Amazing what happens when we turn the other cheek. You should try it sometime. :o])

Have a really GOOD day!


367 posted on 05/09/2008 7:33:34 AM PDT by Monkey Face (If your mother didn't have children, neither would you.)
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To: DManA
I'm not interpreting, he said it himself.

3 Nephi 15:
11 And now it came to pass that when Jesus had spoken these words, he said unto those twelve whom he had chosen:
12 Ye are my disciples; and ye are a light unto this people, who are a remnant of the house of Joseph.
13 And behold, this is the land of your inheritance; and the Father hath given it unto you.
14 And not at any time hath the Father given me commandment that I should tell it unto your brethren at Jerusalem.
15 Neither at any time hath the Father given me commandment that I should tell unto them concerning the other tribes of the house of Israel, whom the Father hath led away out of the land.
16 This much did the Father command me, that I should tell unto them:
17 That other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
18 And now, because of stiffneckedness and unbelief they understood not my word; therefore I was commanded to say no more of the Father concerning this thing unto them.
19 But, verily, I say unto you that the Father hath commanded me, and I tell it unto you, that ye were separated from among them because of their iniquity; therefore it is because of their iniquity that they know not of you.
20 And verily, I say unto you again that the other tribes hath the Father separated from them; and it is because of their iniquity that they know not of them.
21 And verily I say unto you, that ye are they of whom I said: other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
22 And they understood me not, for they supposed it had been the gentiles; for they understood not that the Gentiles should be converted through their preaching.
23 And they understood me not that I said they shall hear my voice; and they understood me not that the gentiles should not at any time hear my voice—that I should not manifest myself unto them save it were by the holy Ghost.
24 But behold, ye have both heard my voice, and seen me; and ye are my sheep, and ye are numbered among those whom the Father hath given me.

But, I'd still be interested in references to one in substance?

368 posted on 05/09/2008 7:34:35 AM PDT by sevenbak (1 Corinthians 2:14)
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To: Saundra Duffy
I can do whatever I want but I want to follow the Word of Wisdom. I have no idea why that ticks you off.

 
 
 
Perhaps these will aid your understanding.
 
Acts 10:9-16
   9.  About noon the following day as they were on their journey and approaching the city, Peter went up on the roof to pray. 
 10.  He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance.
 11.  He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners.
 12.  It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles of the earth and birds of the air.
 13.  Then a voice told him, "Get up, Peter. Kill and eat."
 14.  "Surely not, Lord!" Peter replied. "I have never eaten anything impure or unclean."
 15.  The voice spoke to him a second time, "Do not call anything impure that God has made clean."
 
 
1 Timothy 4:1-3
 1.  The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.
 2.  Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.
 3.  They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth.

369 posted on 05/09/2008 7:35:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Read the rest


370 posted on 05/09/2008 7:35:58 AM PDT by sevenbak (1 Corinthians 2:14)
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To: cherry
NO Mormon that I know has ever even brought up the subject of them being Mormon except if its a direct question....

They don't come to your door in two's?

371 posted on 05/09/2008 7:36:45 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sevenbak

AppyPappy gave you one and you rejected it.

3 Nephi 15 - Christians believe the Book of Mormon is a fraud.


372 posted on 05/09/2008 7:36:51 AM PDT by DManA
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To: GovernmentShrinker

He evolved.


373 posted on 05/09/2008 7:37:34 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: P-Marlowe

ping

LOL!


374 posted on 05/09/2008 7:38:49 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: TheDon
 
 
 

 
 
The FUNDAMENTALIST Church of
Jesus Christ
of Latter Day Saints
 
 
 

375 posted on 05/09/2008 7:39:17 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Grig

Why was Illbay banned?


376 posted on 05/09/2008 7:39:50 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: Colofornian
Get ready to HIEMLICH!

You'll CHOKE folks on that Mormon Meat!

377 posted on 05/09/2008 7:40:48 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Saundra Duffy
Members of the Church ‘believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.’
378 posted on 05/09/2008 7:41:58 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DManA
I showed you many references to them being one in purpose not substance. You too rejected them.

This is why none of this back and forth matters, we each hold to what we consider the truth.

Only God gives truth, and that is by the power of his spirit. One day, hopefully, you can find it in your heart to let others worship the God of truth their way without denying them the identity of discipleship to the Savior of mankind.
Have a good day.

379 posted on 05/09/2008 7:43:01 AM PDT by sevenbak (1 Corinthians 2:14)
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To: DungeonMaster
The first person to use the word "bigotry" loses.

NAZI!!!

(I win!)

380 posted on 05/09/2008 7:44:49 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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