Why so many LDS threads?

08-May-2008 | Grig

[DelphiUser]

If there are only hundreds in this world who can read... Posting on this thread just became less important...

[MHGinTN]

Pitiful pompous apologist people plying for pertinence

[Tennessee Nana]

Prideful, pigheaded, plotting people plying purposeful parity per phony prophet

[MHGinTN]

Better! ... G’day, neighbor.

[Tennessee Nana]

Hi to your cute self

:)

[DelphiUser]

Popular posters persist in posting pleasantly

[Elsie]

We are again consistent with the early church.

You are consistant with being founded upon the lies of two Satanic messengers told to a biblically ignorant 14 yo farmboy.

[DelphiUser]

I Said: We are again consistent with the early church.

U SaidYou are consistant with being founded upon the lies of two Satanic messengers told to a biblically ignorant 14 yo farmboy.

funny, it's consistent with he Bible and with First John 4:1-3

It boils down to, a he said / She Said at this point you can't prove us wrong and only God can prove us right, we tell people to ask him, you tell people to trust you.

Hmmm.

[Reno232]

This is the point I least understand about the cabal, the insatiable desire to trust the “arm of the flesh”, in other words, man, & his precepts, creeds, & understanding. The Lord has encouraged us through the Bible to ask Him & we would receive answers. It's the only sure way & the one that would leave no doubt.

I certainly don't begrudge those that say they have prayed sincerely & come up w/ a different answer than mine. At least they're following the scriptures. But those that say we should trust their judgment just b/c they've been trained better or because they feel they understand better, I have little respect for.

If it weren't for us, they would be hammering other Christians due to their lack of “understanding” of what THEY believe. Just look at the Catholic threads or other religious ones. Even though they have received no answer directly from God, they feel everyone should believe as they do. Amazing!

For those that claim that they have received an answer to prayer that we were not the true church of God, I would ask, did they receive confirmation that their church was the church of God, & if so, what church would that be? The argument that all Christian churches are true as long as they believe in Christ is foolish imho & certainly not based in scripture.

When Christ was here, there was one church & one doctrine, not thousands. When Paul went to preach to the saints in Corinth, he needed to set them straight on certain doctrines. He never said, as long as you believe in Christ, the rest of your beliefs don't matter much & it's o.k. if you all don't believe in the same thing.

Anyway, you're absolutely correct about going to the author of all this & receiving an answer from Him. I've done that & thank the Lord every day for the answer received. What's there to lose? Nothing. What's there to gain? Knowing, & Eternity. Pretty important stuff here.

[greyfoxx39]

For those that claim that they have received an answer to prayer that we were not the true church of God, I would ask, did they receive confirmation that their church was the church of God, & if so, what church would that be? The argument that all Christian churches are true as long as they believe in Christ is foolish imho & certainly not based in scripture.

Oh, sure...NOW we see "THE CHALLENGE" changed...from the challenge to read the bom and pray for an answer if IT is true, now we hear the NEW caveat...

Frankly, IMO it doesn't matter what we say was the "answer", either on the bom or our own faith....the mormons are going to claim that "if you don't get the CORRECT ANSWER. namely that Joseph Smith is a true "prophet", and the bom is revealed truth, then YOU didn't pray in the correct manner, YOU didn't read with an open mind...and so on and so on and so on...there is something wrong with YOU!"....now you are "challenged" to take the mormon challenge to your own faith...more mormon obsfucation.

Another post in which the appropriate reply is HOGWASH X10!

[Ron Jeremy]

Delphi, I was wondering if you could help me with something. I posted a thread the other day asking how it is that the translation errors in the KJV turned up in the Book of Mormon if it was an ancient text, as opposed to a creation by Joseph Smith. Despite all of the Mormons on FR, I can't get anyone to reconcile this for me. Will you please do it? Here is the link to the thread I posted: http://www.informationweek.com/news/internet/policy/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=208404138

thanks

[DelphiUser]

This is the point I least understand about the cabal, the insatiable desire to trust the “arm of the flesh”, in other words, man, & his precepts, creeds, & understanding. This is the point I least understand about the cabal, the insatiable desire to trust the “arm of the flesh”, in other words, man, & his precepts, creeds, & understanding.

when you haven't the faith to get an answer you are left to kick against the pricks and call for peer review of scripture.

The Lord has encouraged us through the Bible to ask Him & we would receive answers. It's the only sure way & the one that would leave no doubt.

I talk about this all the Time inviting people to Put our religion to "The Test" And I am constantly told it has already flunked the test which proves theose saying that do not understand "the Test" is to ask God, they can't answer for God any more than I can write checks on their checking accounts.

I certainly don't begrudge those that say they have prayed sincerely & come up w/ a different answer than mine. At least they're following the scriptures. But those that say we should trust their judgment just b/c they've been trained better or because they feel they understand better, I have little respect for.

LOL! You hit the Nail right smack dab on the head!

If it weren't for us, they would be hammering other Christians due to their lack of “understanding” of what THEY believe. Just look at the Catholic threads or other religious ones. Even though they have received no answer directly from God, they feel everyone should believe as they do. Amazing!

I have only participated on a couple of religion threads outside Mormonism (It's like sword fighting with an unarmed man...) I was invited to one on what it took to be saved, that was fun, watching all the "Christians" damning each other to Hell, so I know what you mean.

For those that claim that they have received an answer to prayer that we were not the true church of God, I would ask, did they receive confirmation that their church was the church of God, & if so, what church would that be? The argument that all Christian churches are true as long as they believe in Christ is foolish imho & certainly not based in scripture.

I have also asked those who claim Joseph was answered by Satan and that my answer was from Satan how they know their answer was not from Satan.

I have pointed out that The Bible in First John 4:1-3 give a way to know:

1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

My answer specifically meets with These tests set forth by John. I suspect he knew a thing or two more about God and Christianity than our attackers do.

When Christ was here, there was one church & one doctrine, not thousands. When Paul went to preach to the saints in Corinth, he needed to set them straight on certain doctrines. He never said, as long as you believe in Christ, the rest of your beliefs don't matter much & it's o.k. if you all don't believe in the same thing.

The Chinese had an interesting saying that they used on most "Christian" Missionaries, they would say "All churches teach people to do Good Right?" (meaning all churches are the same) I would always respond "One mountain is always higher" which means one is always better than the others, then I would tell them there was a way to find out which is best, and they'd be interested (at least enough to let us come and visit.)

Anyway, you're absolutely correct about going to the author of all this & receiving an answer from Him. I've done that & thank the Lord every day for the answer received. What's there to lose? Nothing. What's there to gain? Knowing, & Eternity. Pretty important stuff here.

Not only that, But why would God lie to you , or allow Satan to do so?

The Lord has encouraged us through the Bible to ask Him & we would receive answers. It's the only sure way & the one that would leave no doubt.

But wait, That might be subjective, and all truth should not be subjective (like those arguments that reality is just a figment of our imaginations...)

I have actually had people propose to me that Satan answered my prayer to God, Which has so many problems with it as a theory (what God couldn't stop Satan / Keep his word / Lied when he promised to answer / isn't able to answer / I was praying to the wrong Jesus? These have all been proposed to me and I am sometimes scared that these people are allowed to vote.

One Guy on another thread said that the world would be in chaos if that were true, I pointed out that we had McCain as a Republican party candidate...

These guys are just not in touch with reality, and it's sad.

[MHGinTN]

This is the sort of condescension I referred to ...

[Revelation 911]

I think it’s because non-LDS Christians don’t “walk the walk” like most LDS’ers.

Theology has nothing to do with it whatsoever....(sarc)

They’d rather bash ‘em than admire

admire what? - a solid family model, no drinking or smoking - sure - all great things if you look past the Book of Mormon and Joseph Smith's polygamy, false prophecy, ad nauseum....

I’m not LDS -

riiiiigggghhhht

[Revelation 911]

Thanks for proving my point, I knew someone would bite.

not to ascribe a motive....what is your motive ?

[MHGinTN]

Did you notice how I was admonished for what the religion moderator saw as a ‘potty’ word, but the poster being protected was not admonished for reposting it?

[Reno232]

I’m not sure I get your point. There are those that are part of your cabal that have stated that they prayed & received an answer that the LDS church, BOM, etc. was not true. As I stated earlier, I can respect someone not getting the same answer as I. My very logical question was that if they were able to get the Lord to answer that our church was not true, then certainly they would be able to pray & receive an answer as to whether their church was His. I’m just curious as to what church that was. Obviously, the Lord wouldn’t answer a prayer that a church was false but not answer which was His.

So, you can see very clearly. The challenge hasn’t changed at all. We still invite all to pray to God for guidance & answers as to whether these things are true. I know those answers can come having experienced it myself.

Having been a member of many mainstream Christian churches for years, I struggled w/ some of the doctrines but also the teachings that the Lord didn’t answer prayers any more about truth except through study of the Bible & our ability to ascertain what truth was contained therein w/o direct revelation. That’s not what the Bible taught.

All these thousands of Christian churches that read the same exact Bible in most cases, yet come up w/ vastly different interpretations of what’s contained therein. Every church claimed they were right. Didn’t make sense to me that the Lord would be the author of such confusion. He certainly didn’t create that confusion while He was here.

As I said earlier, one true church, one true set of doctrines. Period. Not what man thought the doctrines meant. He had prophets throughout the Bible who spoke on the Lord’s behalf so that there wouldn’t be confusion. Why would He love them so much as to give them prophets, & yet seemingly turn His back on US now. Now, when we probably need a prophet more than ever if just b/c of all the confusion about His gospel.

Clearly, the Bible isn’t nearly clear enough or there wouldn’t be as much confusion by so many bright, well intentioned people.

Anyways, perhaps your confusion about the challenge being changed was really nothing more than an additional challenge to those who claimed to have had a response. Again, I don’t begrudge their response, but surely having received that response & seen that prayers really are answered, they would have sought answers as to whether their church was the true one. I don’t see why that is such a challenge for you to understand.

That being said, have a great weekend ole’ Grey.

[Reno232]

Very sad.

[Turret Gunner A20]

I have a problem with any person who has sex with minors & practices polygamy where my tax dollars have to pay for their family. Be it FLDS or Muslims. Its not fair & its illegal.

As a non-Mormon, Id like to give you this unsolicited piece of advice --- that part of your post can, and probably does, raise some rather nasty and false associations with the True LDS church. I'd try to claify it some, if I were you.

Take it for whatever you think it might be worth.

[Grig]

Thank you for your kind words.