Why so many LDS threads?

08-May-2008 | Grig

[Grig]

I am posting this on behalf of many LDS freepers. They will post their own 'signature' to this in the comments below. --- Some of you have noticed lately a lot of LDS (ie: Mormon) threads here on FR. I'm going to tell you why.

For many years there have been several active LDS freepers here. We post to all the forums on relevant issues, and were happy to have a site where conservative values were so openly welcomed.

Those conservative values include faith in God, and freedom of religion. We fully respect the rights of all posters to express their opinions and views on religious matters, even when people choose to use those rights to express criticism of our own faith. We also support the ideas embodied in FR rules against religion bashing. There is no need for hostility and there should be no room for bigotry on FR. Every religion has it's miracles and mysteries. Every faith has things in it that are not or can not be proven, and things that run contrary to what secular science would have us believe. Someone mature and confident in their own faith generally doesn't feel the need to belittle the faith of others.

We have, to the best of our ability, conducted ourselves with civility and dignity. We do not feel that that respect has been returned by some posters (putting it mildly).

When Mormon missionaries were murdered, the moderators were kept busy pulling jubilant posts off the thread. When Elizabeth Smart was abducted from her home, we contended for months with posters who appeared to be motivated by religious bigotry doing all they could to smear the family and accuse the father. Several posters openly admitted their religious motivation in opposing Mitt Romney and confessed that no matter how conservative any Mormon was, they would never vote for one for President of the USA. When the Pope died, I don't think any Mormon poster posted anything unkind, yet the thread about the passing of our President recently needed many comments removed.

Nearly every thread having any connection with Mormons, or Utah winds up being hijacked by anti-Mormon activists who copy and paste the same false accusations over and over even when it has been clearly and factually pointed out to them on multiple occasions that they are bearing false witness against our faith. Everything possible is done by these activists to make FR a hostile place for Mormons, and for at least some of them, bashing Mormonism is all they do here. Their most recent project is trying to blur the fact that the polygamous FLDS is a separate and distinct religion from ours, just as Lutherans are a separate and distinct religion from Catholicism.

In our opinion, such poster do a great disservice to FR and to their fellow freepers by spreading disinformation and promoting hostility towards a people known for walking the walk of conservative values.

Why the moderators here don't see the behavior of these anti-Mormon activists as religion bashing is a mystery to us, but it is the moderators call to make and we respect their right to do so. That doesn't mean we have to be passive however. We have all spent many hours refuting the accusations leveled at our faith, but these wind up buried deep in a flood of comments, effectively shouting us down.

Recently some of us have decided to take a more proactive approach. Rather than try to wrestle the pig into taking a bath, we are just going to hose it down. We will actively define our faith here rather than just respond to accusations.

So expect to see lots of Mormon threads, now and for as long as we see fit to keep posting them (although probably not as many as there are Catholic threads). They will be about our basic doctrines and responses to common accusations. If you want to know what our faith is about, read the articles we post. We will post them as open threads and I encourage you to compare the difference in tone and spirit between what we post and what our critics say.

[SkyPilot]

I know that my denomination does not.

Sorry - I didn't see that post.

What is your denomination?

Does it not follow the same bible that teaches us to speak against false teaching?

Paul learned that certain men within the church were teaching false doctrines. He rebuked them.

As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain men not to teach false doctrines any longer nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies. These promote controversies rather than God's work—which is by faith. The goal of this command is love, which comes from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith.

1 Timothy 1:3-5

Doesn't your denomination (if Biblical) command the same?

If so, why are you defending that which is not of the true Christ?

[greyfoxx39]

I’m just trying to figure what’s lost, and how they’re gonna save it. ;)

It must be sheep, 'cause is SURE ain't horses or PIGS! ;)

[greyfoxx39]

I’m just trying to figure what’s lost, and how they’re gonna save it. ;)

It must be sheep, 'cause is SURE ain't horses or PIGS! ;)

[MHGinTN]

In reading that passage from Paul’s writing to Timothy, I am struck by the astonishing focus it places on the smithian myths and the ‘endless’ geneologies for baptising dead people by proxy which appear to be the central focus of mormonism. Quite astonishing really! Satan hasn’t changed his tactics over all these millenia, and the sad thing is Mormons are seeking to be so sincere yet are so sincerely wrong to follow a peepstone divination false prophet.

[Elsie]

One bullet is shooting ones way out of Jail!

Being stupid is getting yourself INTO jail!

[Elsie]

What happened is the carpet bombers were all picked on as children. So today if they can pull just one soul into their kingdom by kicking them in the groin it becomes the ultimate therapy. lol.

 

 

Aren't you the li'l sweetheart!

 

 

Author Ed Decker, a former Mormon who has been one of the religion's staunchest critics for decades, says a vast majority of people who convert to Mormonism leave the religion within a year because they realize it's not Christian.

Decker's latest book is called My Kingdom Come: A Mormon Quest for Godhood. He says the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints sends out about 60,000 volunteer missionaries around the world -- but most of the 300,000 annual converts, he notes, do not stick around.

"Eighty percent [of converts] actually leave the Mormon church within the first year," states Decker. "They go there thinking this is a Christian church and then they sit down in the congregation and begin to listen to what is being said from the pulpit ... [and] by the leaders ... [and] in the classes, and they realize that this is not Christian and they get out."

Decker offers his explanation of why such a high percentage of converts leave the church so soon. "They don't tell [the converts] the details about men becoming gods and getting many goddess wives and presiding over their own planets," he shares. "And they leave out the esoteric theology of Mormonism that separates it from Christianity."

The author says even many of the missionaries themselves become disillusioned. "Fifty percent of the Mormons who fulfill their missions leave the church within two years, and 25 percent of them walk off the mission field because they know they're presenting lies," adds Decker.

According to Decker, any growth of Mormonism in the U.S. is from babies being born into the religion by Mormon parents.

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2 Nephi 3:12     Wherefore, the fruit of thy loins write; and the fruit of thy loins of Judah shall write; and that which shall be written by the fruit of thy loins, and also that which shall be written by the fruit of thy loins of Judah, shall grow together,

2 Nephi 3:18      And the Lord said unto me also: I will raise up unto the fruit of thy loins; and I will make for him a spokesman. And I, behold, I will give unto him that he shall write the writing of the fruit of thy loins, unto the fruit of thy loins; and the spokesman of thy loins shall declare it.

 

Joseph Smith Translation Gen. 50: 27   Thus saith the Lord God of my fathers unto me, A choice seer will I raise up out of the fruit of thy loins, and he shall be esteemed highly among the fruit of thy loins; and unto him will I give commandment that he shall do a work for the fruit of thy loins, his brethren.

Joseph Smith Translation Gen. 50: 31    Wherefore the fruit of thy loins shall write, and the fruit of thy loins of Judah shall write; and that which shall be written by the fruit of thy loins, and also that which shall be written by the fruit of thy loins of Judah, shall grow together

[Osage Orange]

What happened is the carpet bombers were all picked on as children. So today if they can pull just one soul into their kingdom by kicking them in the groin it becomes the ultimate therapy. lol.

ROFLOL!!!.............

[Elsie]

Anti-Mormons continue to put unorthodox spins on words such as “Christian,” “trinity,” and now “martyr.”

HA Ha ha!

Just WHO has changed DEFINITIONS???

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CHOOSES???

LDS speak for having your mouth overload your a [large donkey]?

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'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone,' it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less.'

'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.'

'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'

Alice was too much puzzled to say anything; so after a minute Humpty Dumpty began again. 'They've a temper, some of them - particularly verbs: they're the proudest - adjectives you can do anything with, but not verbs - however, I can manage the whole lot of them! Impenetrability! That's what I say!'

[Osage Orange]

Actually, if nobody posted a large section of the same information more than once, it might actually advance the conversation. There is a point that a posting goes from being informative to being simply annoying. Annoying never accomplishes it’s purpose, unless the purpose is to annoy, aggragate, and turn people off from your argument. And your claim is to want to persuade, not alienate.

When you post this exact post to the mormon brigade...I will believe you.

[Elsie]

no. just pinged the religion moderator. that not good enough?

Dang!

I'm late to #1021 and #1030

Any goodies that I missed?

[Elsie]

How come it is that FR is so quick to protect the pope from this kind of ridiculue but then its ok to be done against the founder of another’s religion?

The POPE didn't FOUND nothin'!

[Osage Orange]

And so long as the moderators allow you to continue, I will assume that the purpose of this board IS partly to drive a large conservative population away from the political fight.

I dunno about you Charles....but I can multi-task..........

[Elsie]

Absurd! You make an utterly illegitimate assertion.

OF COURSE! You silly GENTILE!

So you have to waste your time DEFENDing the charge!

HA HA!!!

--MormonDude(Explaining yet again some of our tactics...)

[Elsie]

Hon, you’re a bit late to the party and I’m already in bed.

And I'm 25 hours late right NOW!

[Elsie]

You are NOW going to be sued by some punk rock band for name infringement!

[netmilsmom]

So why in the world are you posting to me 25 hours later.

I’ve moved on, so should you.

[Elsie]

Believe what you will, it doesn't change the truth.

Yup; that's what we be tellin' you all along!

[Elsie]

 

 If you testify to me that the Book of Mormon is not true, and your story is fishy, I won't accept that, sorry.

 

 

FISHY alert!!

 

 

 

KJV 1 Corinthians 4:17
  For this cause have I sent unto you Timotheus, who is my beloved son, and faithful in the Lord, who shall bring you into remembrance of my ways which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church.

 

KJV 1 Corinthians 11:2
   Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.

 

 KJV 2 Thessalonians 2:15
   Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

 

KJV 2 Timothy 1:13
   Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.

 

KJV 2 Timothy 3:14-15
 14.  But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
 15.  And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

 

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NIV Galatians 1:6-9
 6.  I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel--
 7.  which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ.
 8.  But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!
 9.  As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!

 

 

 

ANYBODY???

 

Like this fine looking fellow???

 

 

 

 

 

2 Corinthians 11:12-15
 12.  And I will keep on doing what I am doing in order to cut the ground from under those who want an opportunity to be considered equal with us in the things they boast about.
 13.  For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ.
 14.  And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
 15.  It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.

Like THESE guys??

 

 

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/19#19

 

 

17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!

 

 

 

[Elsie]

Put the Book of Mormon to "The Test"

See post ABOVE!!!!

[Elsie]

You might want to do a little study on Word printing it's been used to ties some previously un known works to paul, nad it proved the book of Mormon could not possibly have been written by a farm boy with three whole years of education at break neck pace.

Sorry; but your 'PROOF' is a bit faulty.

Do a study on AUTOMATIC WRITING and you'll find it could be done in a lot LESS time!