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Solar and Lunar Eclipses in 2014/15
Prophecy in the News ^ | May 2008 | J. R. Church

Posted on 05/02/2008 9:09:14 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012

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To: ladyL; LiteKeeper

Correct me if I’m wrong - but I believe they follow the Torah AND they believe that their Messiah was/is Jesus. (Just like the first disciples). So they also believe the New Testament as well.

I asked a Messianic Jew Rabbi if he considered himself a “Christian” based on some of the comments I had read awhile back on FR. He looked at me funny and said “of course!” But, on further discussion he said that because he is Jewish and most of the people he witnesses to are Jewish, he prefers to be called a Messianic Jew. He said the Jews he talks to understand the term “Messiah”, while the term “Christian” is almost derogatory.


21 posted on 05/02/2008 10:28:38 AM PDT by 21twelve (Don't wish for peace. Pray for Victory.)
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To: XeniaSt
For reference.


Table Heading: Dates of Sabbatical and Jubilee Years, According to the Talmudical Calculation.

Dates of Sabbatical and Jubilee Years, According to the Talmudical Calculation.
Period. Year of Creation. Year of Settlement in Palestine. B.C. or C.E. Number of Sabbatical Years. Number of Jubilee Years.
B.C. (50-year cycle)
Crossing of the Jordan 2489 .... 1271
Conquest and allotment of Palestine 2503 1257
First Sabbatical year 2510 7 1250 1.
First Jubilee year 2553 50 1207 7. 1.
Exile of the Ten Tribes 3187 684 573 95.6 13.34
Destruction of the First Temple 3338 835 422 117 16.35 (49-year cycle)
Second entrance to Palestine 3408 From destruction of the Temple. 352 127. 18.7
Seleucidan era commenced 3448 312 135.5 18.47
Destruction of the Second Temple 3828 C.E. 68-69 187. 26.35
Exilic Sabbatical cycle commenced 3829 1 69-70
Current Sabbatical year 5665 1836 1904-5 449.2 64.9
Last Sabbatical year will begin 5999 2238 497 71.
Cabalistic jubilee will commence 6000 2239
See also Era; Jubilees, Book of.

Source


22 posted on 05/02/2008 10:32:53 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: ArrogantBustard
See ya in 2016.

Mazol Tov !
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua
23 posted on 05/02/2008 10:44:53 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall k<now that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: FourtySeven
There were over 237 years of error introduced
following the Council of Jamnia in 90 CE.

24 posted on 05/02/2008 10:48:16 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall k<now that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: XeniaSt

Error? You mean the Jews that follow the Talmud are off by 237 years, or the author of your OP is off by 237 years?


25 posted on 05/02/2008 10:59:13 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: FourtySeven
The jewish Calendar's 240 Missing Years

26 posted on 05/02/2008 11:02:51 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall k<now that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: 21twelve; ladyL; LiteKeeper
The Messianic Jewish Movement
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua

27 posted on 05/02/2008 11:11:08 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall k<now that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: ladyL

Does that mean they are living under the Law?


28 posted on 05/02/2008 11:21:00 AM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: XeniaSt

Very interesting article Chuck. Thanks for the ping and I’ll study it more in depth later on this sabbath.


29 posted on 05/02/2008 12:07:54 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: XeniaSt

Well...he’s a little fast and loose on these dates. I have Redshift 5 astronomy software, and I used this in conjunction with the Hebcal Interactive Jewish Calendar (http://www.hebcal.com/hebcal/) to find the following:

1948:

The maximum for the lunar eclipse around Passover took place on April 23 at 13:42 Universal Time (ie: Greenwich Mean time which is 2 hours behind Jerusalem time). The time for Erev Pesach was the following sundown, approximately 3-4 hours later in Jerusalem. So, technically, it was on the previous day, relatively to the Hebrew calendar

The maximum for the lunar eclipse around Sukkot took place on October 18 at 2:32 UT. Erev Sukkot had begun the previous sundown, so this “date correspondence” is “correct,” as they would both have occured on the same calendar day in the Jewish calendar.

1949:

Lunar eclipse for Passover occured April 13, with a midpoint at 4:12 UT. Erev Pesach began the previous sundown, within the same Jewish calendar day, so this correspondence is “correct.”

Lunar eclipse for Sukkot occured October 7, midpoint at 2:56 UT. Erev Sukkot occured at sundown on October 7, so this makes the two events take place on separate days in the Jewish calendar. There is no “correspondence.”

1967:

Passover eclipse: April 23, 12:08 UT. Erev Pesach took place the following sundown, hours later. Different Jewish calendar days, no correspondence.

Sukkot eclipse: October 18, 10:05 UT. Erev Sukkot took place the following sundown, many hours later. Different Jewish calendar days, no correspondence.

1968:

Passover eclipse: April 13, 4;46 UT. Erev Pesach occured the previous sundown. Same Jewish calendar day, correspondence.

Sukkot eclipse: October 6, 11:41 UT. Erev Sukkot occured the previous sundown. Same Jewish calendar day, correspondence.

2014:

Passover eclipse will occur April 15, 7:47 UT. Erev pesach will have begun the previous sundown. Same Jewish calendar day, correspondence.

Sukkot eclipse will occur October 8, 10:54 UT. Erev Sukkot will begin the following sundown. Different Jewish calendar days, no correspondence.

2015:

Passover eclipse will occur April 4, 12:00 UT. Erev Pesach will have begun the previous sundown. Same Jewish calendar day, correspondence.

Sukkot eclipse will occur on September 28, 2:46 UT. Erev Sukkot will have begun the previous sundown. Same Jewish calendar day, correspondence.

Okay. So what does that all mean? Well, of the 12 events listed, only 7 of them actually correspond, in the Jewish calendar, to the eclipse and the feast occuring on the same day. Five eclipse events occur on the previous day, according to the Hebrew calendar. If one wants to simply look at Gregorian dates, and ignore the Jewish calendar (days beginning at sundown, etc.), that doesn’t solve the problem. Indeed, it makes it worse. Seven of the events, figured this way, would have Erev Pesach or Erev Sukkot occur on the previous Gregorian calendar day, and only 5 would correspond.

In short, while it is sort of “interesting” that these 12 events occur “within a day either way” of Passover and Sukkot, that is not the same as saying that they are as miraculously aligned as the article implies. If God really wanted this kind of described correspondence to “mean something,” He could have been more precise than this. Therefore, these eclipses very likely have no real significance whatsoever.


30 posted on 05/02/2008 12:09:33 PM PDT by magisterium
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To: magisterium

1948: “relatively” = “relative”

Long day. Sheesh!


31 posted on 05/02/2008 12:17:27 PM PDT by magisterium
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To: LiteKeeper; ladyL
Does that mean they are living under the Law?

That depends on what you mean by living under the Law.

Messianic Jews do not seek salvation by living by the Law.

They know that the Blood of the Passover Lamb covers all their sins.

However they do not follow man-made traditions developed from paganism.

They seek to follow Yah'shua's commandments as he commanded us.

NAsbU John 14:15 "If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua
32 posted on 05/02/2008 12:24:56 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall k<now that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: magisterium; topcat54; All
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33 posted on 05/02/2008 1:52:00 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall k<now that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: Chris DeWeese

ping


34 posted on 05/02/2008 2:39:16 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall k<now that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: XeniaSt
The four lunar eclipses will occur on: Passover, April 15, 2014; The Feast of Tabernacles, October 8, 2014; Passover, April 4, 2015 and The Feast of Tabernacles, September 28, 2015.

Most of the folks on this forum will not even realize the significance of this.....that God's calendar is based on the Lunar cycle. When told of that fact they'll say something like "Oh, we're not under the Law......"! LOL

Good Article Chuck.

35 posted on 05/02/2008 7:54:18 PM PDT by Diego1618
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To: Diego1618
I think Matthew 25 applies to most of those.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua


36 posted on 05/03/2008 5:49:33 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall k<now that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: XeniaSt

Everything you have talked about pertaining to the Jewish Calendar dates Solor and lunar eclipses are signs and seasons. Gods prophetic indicators point to this great theory. God has given his prophets means of finding his wisdom and puzzle pieces. I am very excited and grounded into Bible Prophecy. These foundings of jewish dates and events make complete sense to me. God Bless You


37 posted on 10/03/2008 10:27:32 PM PDT by Pickinpackinmama
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To: XeniaSt

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38 posted on 12/17/2008 7:41:11 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: antisocial

A reminder...


39 posted on 04/12/2014 10:03:13 AM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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