Posted on 04/28/2008 6:05:51 PM PDT by Coleus
Rep. Dale E. Kildee (D-Mich.), a Catholic congressman who endorsed Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) for president, told Cybercast News Service Wednesday that despite Sen. Barack Obama's (D-Ill.) failure to capture Catholic voters in the Pennsylvania primary, the majority of Catholics will vote for the Democratic candidate in the general election, whether it's Obama or Clinton. According to the exit poll of the Pennsylvania primary, church-going Democrats picked Clinton over Obama on Tuesday, with Catholic voters especially lining up behind Clinton.
Among all Democratic primary voters who said they attend church weekly, Clinton beat Obama 61 percent to 39 percent. Among Catholics who attend church weekly, she beat him 74 percent to 26 percent. This represents a dramatic shift from the Feb. 19 Democratic primary in Wisconsin, where Obama defeated Clinton 58 percent to 41 percent. In that state, Obama defeated Clinton 55 percent to 44 percent among Democratic voters who attend church weekly.
Clinton did win in Wisconsin among Catholic voters who attend church weekly, but by a much smaller margin (53 percent) than the 74 percent she took in Pennsylvania. The shift is significant because Catholic Democrats in northern states have been a key swing vote in recent presidential elections. In 2004, President Bush defeated Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) 52 percent to 47 percent among Catholic voters nationwide even though Kerry is a Catholic. In Ohio, widely viewed as the state that tipped the Electoral College to the Republicans, Bush beat Kerry 65 percent to 35 percent among Catholics who attend church weekly.
"I will vote, come November, for the Democratic candidate, whoever that may be," Kildee told Cybercast News Service. "I predict the majority of Catholics will choose the Democratic ticket come November. "The Catholic vote is split," he said. "There is no question about it. There are various issues that split the Catholic vote, but the one thing that does pull it together is what I call the social gospel: treatment of the working people, and treatment of the poor. That tends to pull the Catholic vote together.
"Whichever candidate can show they care about these things will garner the Catholic vote," Kildee added. Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.), who has also endorsed Clinton, expressed a similar sentiment. "I didn't see any of the numbers," he told Cybercast News Service. "But that shift seems to show the great ability Hillary Clinton has to talk to average folks about their concerns. They came out and voted for her last night."
Kildee said he could not speculate on why church-going voters may have shifted their support from Obama to Clinton. "Pennsylvania is an older state. Its political involvement is different than Wisconsin," he said. "When you get to the Midwest, there are probably other issues. It could be an interesting analysis, but it might also take a PhD. It's more analysis then I can give right now." Kildee said he stayed up until midnight Tuesday watching the results come in.
Catholics that vote for the beast ain’t...
The Majority will not. The cafeteria Catholics who select what rules fit on their plates will. They are also their own individual Popes as they make their own rules as they go along in their life. Just ask the congressman
This means anyone who thinks they're voting in their own best interest. To heck with what's right and what's wrong.
Sadly, there are quite a few who don't take it seriously enough.
Don't fool yourself that voting for a pro-life Democrat will advance a prolife agenda, because it won't. If RATS are in control, it's guaranteed that no pro-life legislation will ever see the light of day.
Oh, I’m not fooled. I watch them very closely.
My Congressman said he was prolife, but he has walked the line for Nancy, and has not done one thing to defend human life.
I voted for the opponent, who had a prolife record, but was ousted because of the RINO’s acting like dems.
I am in a similar quandry. Yesterday after mass the pastor and an illegal immigration 'activist' had a little symposium on how most of the negative stuff we have been hearing over the last couple of years is simple the 'unchristian' ravings of xenophobes. Surprisingly, when I asked about Jesus' teaching to 'render unto Caesar what is Caesars, and unto God what is God's', he had no answer. Just 'compassion, justice, etc. etc. blah blah blah'...I have 'retired' from Catholicism in the past for these same reasons (their defense of illegals and pedophile priests, their refusal to take doctrine seriously)...when I got married again in 2006 we resolved to resume going. But how (and why) should I continue when the American Catholic church is so out of touch with my beliefs? Any suggestions?
So how did that work out for those who voted Democrat because they thought they would be more conservtive? Stupid, stupid, stupid.
I left a church that was contrary to my political views. Couldn’t be happier that I left.
I don’t think that the unions necessarily have the best interests of their members at heart. Union party line voting means blind obedience to corrupt union leaders. I can speak as one who has had family members on both sides of the aisle, that is union and management.
Ping to follow the comments - I’ve posted threads re this phenomenon many times.
Same here.
God Bless you .
It’s a quandry.
So far, my one and only baby has been Parochial School boy.
I have spent much money and many hours volunteering to be a help for the other children.
My personal ministrations have been well recieved by the children ( we just did artsy crafty stuff/ not available in a Public School, lunch Mom, Yard Mom etc.)
but the Nut who ran the School Hated me just cause she’s a Nut.
The Pastor was too afraid to take her on and drank his way to Old Age, and the Church did SQUAT to support the School!
After a bit..
YOU JUST GIVE UP!
Our particular faith happens to be made up of some of the Biggest Human Losers in History .
Live it. Love it Always.. then leave it .
Only way to Sanity that I have found.
I find relief by attending a Traditional Latin Mass when I can. (too far away to go every Sunday). There's no "social justice" type garbage....just the congregation giving its full attention to Jesus. Unfortunately, I have to suck it up and go to the ordinary form mass in between, though I usually walk out in tears.
This Catholic votes for Protestants who select good Catholic Supreme Court justices like Scalia, Roberts, Alito and Catholic-educated Thomas. Kennedy has disappointed sometimes and been on the mark on others.
And shame on them for doing so.
notdownwidems (Shellback, pollywogs! 1980)
oo-rah
You’ve placed your faith in men when you should have been placing it in God and in the process have separated yourself from the Sacraments which are the physical manifestations of God’s grace. Too bad. That’s the point St. Francis de Sales tried to convey so many centuries ago.
Yes, but I find that the democrats, for some reason, don’t pay close attention to it all. They pretty much believe what they are told.
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