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To: Gamecock
There is no "stacking the deck" in acknowledging that sola scriptura is--ironically--non-scriptural.
3 posted on 04/21/2008 4:55:02 AM PDT by Petronski (Vivat Benedict XVI!)
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To: Petronski

Oh but it is. Only tradition says that it isn’t.


4 posted on 04/21/2008 4:59:42 AM PDT by Gamecock ("I find your lack of faith-disturbing" Darth Vader)
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To: Petronski
Sola Scriptura is not what (and never was) what most Catholics and Protestants think it means.

The Reformation was quite necessary, in its day. I'm a great fan of the tradition and liturgy of the Church, and I like this Pope, but there will never be any real ecumenism until the Catholic Church agrees that its doctrines are open to question and debate. Every ecumenical effort on the part of the Church always seems end up with, "how can we get you all to come back to us and agree with everything we teach."

The Church never approaches ecumenism on equal footing, prepared to hear out Protestant issues - on theological and doctrinal issues.

But I hold out no real hope, because the Church has backed itself into a corner. It cannot throw out any of its ex-cathedra doctrine, and it cannot change or throw out any of its tradition without losing its mythical infallibility. And therefore complete inventions, like the "assumption" of Mary, can not be revisited, examined, changed, or thrown out. To do so, by the Church, would be a de-facto admission of fallibility.

And though I love so much about the Catholic Church, this Protestant will never agree to any Marian doctrines such as "immaculate conception", "assumption", etc, or that I should pray to the souls of dead human beings who are now alive with the Lord. For most Protestants, anything to do with Marianism is right out, anathema. So unless the Church is willing to agree that Marianism is a private matter and nothing within it is required for a believer who joins the Church, then ecumenism is a wasted effort.

Sola Scriptura meant something, too, and it's too bad so many Catholics and Protestants have forgotten what Luther originally said.

10 posted on 04/21/2008 7:00:03 AM PDT by Boagenes (I'm your huckleberry, that's just my game.)
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To: Petronski; Gamecock; markomalley; Dr. Eckleburg; Quix; irishtenor; PAR35; xzins
There is no "stacking the deck" in acknowledging that sola scriptura is--ironically--non-scriptural.

Well, that's not very ecumenical now is it? You heard the Pope so straighten up.

118 posted on 04/22/2008 4:12:39 PM PDT by HarleyD
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