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To: markomalley; Dr. Eckleburg; Quix; HarleyD; irishtenor; PAR35; xzins
by seeking the essential elements of the profession of faith that Scripture and Tradition uphold and on the basis of which, then, we must come together."

Talk about stacking the deck on the call for Ecumenical Honesty.

While I haven't seen the final list of the 250 Proddies in attendance, I'm sure they were not those who would see any issue with that statement.

Nothing to see here folks, move along.

2 posted on 04/21/2008 4:51:11 AM PDT by Gamecock ("I find your lack of faith-disturbing" Darth Vader)
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To: Gamecock
There is no "stacking the deck" in acknowledging that sola scriptura is--ironically--non-scriptural.
3 posted on 04/21/2008 4:55:02 AM PDT by Petronski (Vivat Benedict XVI!)
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To: Gamecock
Take an honest look at the fruits of severing Scripture from Tradition. Just step back for a moment and observe the fractured, multiplied professions who have discarded the idea of Tradition and proclaim to the world that one man with a Bible, divorced from the accumulated wisdom of the Church fathers and the magisterium, is all that is necessary to understand God's word.

If we're going to speak of "honesty", then it seems to me that one has to conclude that this type of false theology has fostered widespread Christian disunity. It has negated the prayer of Jesus that "they all may be one, as you and I Father are one".

Not only in matters of faith but also in life in general, those who proudly discard the learning and wisdom of their ancestors and forefathers, are destined to fall into error. Tradition is not a millstone which hangs around our necks or something invented by man to keep us from knowing God. It is a light which illumines the path of truth and wisdom.

It is the sin of pride which leads man to think that Tradition amounts to naught and that his own personal reading of Scripture will suffice.

5 posted on 04/21/2008 6:27:49 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: Gamecock; markomalley

The pope killed any ecumenical honesty when he declared that he doesn’t consider the participants in his discussions to be real churches.

“My way or the highway” is how I read Benedict.

I will remain unfettered except by Jesus’ call that true believers be united in true unity.


80 posted on 04/21/2008 2:44:40 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: Gamecock; markomalley; Dr. Eckleburg; Quix; HarleyD; irishtenor; xzins

I haven’t seen the full list, but you can start with the usual liberal suspects of:

Rev. Dr. Donald McCoid, representing Presiding Bishop Mark Hanson of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America

Bishop Jeremiah J. Park - UMC

Rev. Dr. Wesley Granberg-Michaelson - RCA

Rev. Dr. Clifton Kirkpatrick - PCUSA

Rev. Dr. William J. Shaw - National Baptists Convention

Dr. Leith Anderson - NAE

Bishop James Leggett - International Pentacostal Holiness Church

Bishop David H. Benke - LCMS

The Right Rev. Mark S. Sisk - ECUSA


101 posted on 04/21/2008 7:47:58 PM PDT by PAR35
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