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To: ConservativeMind

You wrote:

“No, it’s Catholics who believe that you can be prayed out of Purgatory if you’ve ever accepted the Catholic church’s teachings.”

Wrong. A one time acceptance of Catholic teaching in no way overrides the condition of your soul at the time of death. I know of no Catholic anywhere - certainly not one well catechized - who believes that a man’s actions and faith have nothing to do with his final destination. You are claiming that a mere intellectual acceptance of doctrine, once upon a time, ensures salvation. No one believes that, especially Catholics.

Try again.

“This is great for him, as he apparently fully accepted those teachings twice.”

There’s no evidence he ever accepted those teachings once let alone twice. 1) we have no evidence at all - NONE - about any particular strong devotion on his part when he was young and we know he renounced the faith when a young man. 2) He persecuted the faith and undermined it every chance he got.

Clearly he was not Catholic.

“Surely that means each prayer to get him out of Purgatory counts double.”

Surely your post is proof of not only ignorance but bitterness and bigotry as well.


21 posted on 03/15/2008 10:59:44 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: vladimir998
It was you who stated Hitler had a TWO TIME acceptance. So, insisting that a one-time can muster being prayed out of “Purgatory” is not apparently relevant.

Try again.

You can't know a man's position with God the moment he died. As a result, prayers are considered helpful to get a person out of the state of “purgatory” and this is why Catholics do this.

If you really cared about God and Hitler, you'd be praying for him. Which “saint” is it that would most help Hitler? Be a good Catholic and get started.

Try again.

According to Vladimir998 (I thought that was you—do tell us if it's not or you've entered another person's body):

Adolf Hitler left the Catholic faith when he was a young man, and was, in fact, excommunicated twice.

9 posted on 03/15/2008 12:44:18 PM CDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1986216/posts?page=9#9

And a few minutes later you are stating:

“There’s no evidence he ever accepted those teachings once let alone twice. 1) we have no evidence at all - NONE - about any particular strong devotion on his part when he was young and we know he renounced the faith when a young man. 2) He persecuted the faith and undermined it every chance he got.

Clearly he was not Catholic.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1986216/posts?page=21#21

So, are we to understand that:

A) Hitler actually was a Catholic—twice, and was excommunicated twice
B) Hitler was only a Catholic once, excommunicated, and then re-excommunicated because the Pope didn't think the first one stuck with God
C) You have multiple personalities and can't keep your words straight

Which one is correct?

Try again.

48 posted on 03/15/2008 11:43:13 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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