Try again.
You can't know a man's position with God the moment he died. As a result, prayers are considered helpful to get a person out of the state of “purgatory” and this is why Catholics do this.
If you really cared about God and Hitler, you'd be praying for him. Which “saint” is it that would most help Hitler? Be a good Catholic and get started.
Try again.
According to Vladimir998 (I thought that was you—do tell us if it's not or you've entered another person's body):
Adolf Hitler left the Catholic faith when he was a young man, and was, in fact, excommunicated twice.
9 posted on 03/15/2008 12:44:18 PM CDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1986216/posts?page=9#9
And a few minutes later you are stating:
“There’s no evidence he ever accepted those teachings once let alone twice. 1) we have no evidence at all - NONE - about any particular strong devotion on his part when he was young and we know he renounced the faith when a young man. 2) He persecuted the faith and undermined it every chance he got.
Clearly he was not Catholic.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1986216/posts?page=21#21
So, are we to understand that:
A) Hitler actually was a Catholic—twice, and was excommunicated twice
B) Hitler was only a Catholic once, excommunicated, and then re-excommunicated because the Pope didn't think the first one stuck with God
C) You have multiple personalities and can't keep your words straight
Which one is correct?
Try again.
You wrote:
“It was you who stated Hitler had a TWO TIME acceptance.”
Incorrect. That was stated to me by you. See post #17.
“So, insisting that a one-time can muster being prayed out of “Purgatory” is not apparently relevant.”
I have no idea what you’re even trying to say.
“You can’t know a man’s position with God the moment he died.”
I don’t have to. It’s not my job. Divinity is way above my pay grade.
“As a result, prayers are considered helpful to get a person out of the state of “purgatory” and this is why Catholics do this.”
No. We pray for those in purgatory. We do not pray for those we have no reason to believe will never, EVER, go to heaven. Purgatory is a cleansing. It is not a second chance.
“If you really cared about God and Hitler, you’d be praying for him. Which “saint” is it that would most help Hitler? Be a good Catholic and get started.”
Why would I pray for a man who rejected God even at the time of his death? He chose to accept what I can’t reverse. He chose the way of death.
“According to Vladimir998 (I thought that was you—do tell us if it’s not or you’ve entered another person’s body):
Adolf Hitler left the Catholic faith when he was a young man, and was, in fact, excommunicated twice.”
Yes, he was excommunicated twice. The excommunication were of different kinds and thus do not reflect a return to the faith and a subsequent second excommunication but are merely two DIFFERENT excommunications. Again, we see that anti-Catholic flail mightily to attack and attack what they clearly haven’t even attempted to understand.
“And a few minutes later you are stating:
“There’s no evidence he ever accepted those teachings once let alone twice. 1) we have no evidence at all - NONE - about any particular strong devotion on his part when he was young and we know he renounced the faith when a young man. 2) He persecuted the faith and undermined it every chance he got. Clearly he was not Catholic.”
And I was absolutely 100% right both times and in both posts.
1) There is no evidence Hitler was ever a dedicated Catholic as an adult.
2) By his actions and beliefs Hitler excommunicated himself as a young man.
3) Hitler, as were all Nazis, was excommunicated by the German bishops in the early 1930s.
Hitler, therefore, just as I said, was not a Catholic at anytime in his full adult life. AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I SAID. Hitler left the faith when he was a young man.
“So, are we to understand that:A) Hitler actually was a Catholic—twice, and was excommunicated twice”
No. Hitler was baptized into the faith, but we have no evidence he ever took it to heart even as a youth. And we know he abandoned the practice and faith of Christianity as a young man. He was first self-excommunicated as a young man and later excommunicated as a Nazis in the early 1930s.
This isn’t hard to understand. A knowledge of history on your part would help.
“B) Hitler was only a Catholic once, excommunicated, and then re-excommunicated because the Pope didn’t think the first one stuck with God
C) You have multiple personalities and can’t keep your words straight”
I have been right all along. The problem is entirely yours. Nothing I have said is even confusing let alone inaccurate or in error.
“Which one is correct?”
What I have written is correct. Think. Try it for once in your life.
“Try again.”
Clearly I need not try again since I have been 100% correct all along. You can’t even understand these simple issue so I doubt trying it again will help you.
Why not study some history and actually come back when you know something?