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Circumcision Makes History in Odessa, Ukraine
Chabad.org ^ | Mar. 13, 2008

Posted on 03/13/2008 12:01:56 PM PDT by Alouette

In the thriving Jewish community of Odessa, Ukraine, ritual circumcisions happen about one a week; weddings occur one a month. But the bris of young Alexander Gorvitz two weeks ago nevertheless made history for being the first time that more than 80 years that a Ukraine mayor hosted a public celebration on occasion of his son’s circumcision.

Edward Gorvitz, the father, is currently in his second term as mayor of the Black Sea port. He and his wife, Olga, have one other son, 21-year-old Shmuel.

According to Chabad-Lubavitch Rabbi Avraham Wolff, who organized the ceremony with the Brit Yosef Yitzchak organization that sends mohels all over the world, the circumcision was made all the more special by the fact that the Gorvitzes had been praying for another child for so long.

Olga Gorvitz, 48, "prays every day," said Wolff, who, together with his wife, frequently travels to Israel with the couple. "They're both very warm Jews.

"They have been waiting many years to have another child," added Wolff, chief rabbi of Odessa and Southern Ukraine. "When they found it would be a boy, it was clear to them that he would have his bris."

A host of community members turned out for the occasion, which was catered by a local kosher restaurant.


TOPICS: Judaism
KEYWORDS: brit; circumcision; judaism; ukraine
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Mazal tov to Mayor Gorvitz and his family.

1 posted on 03/13/2008 12:01:58 PM PDT by Alouette
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2 posted on 03/13/2008 12:02:41 PM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: Alouette

Holy Mohel(y) !


3 posted on 03/13/2008 12:14:15 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~***Just say NO to the "O"***~~~)
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To: Alouette

My son tells me that I shouldn’t have signed the hospital papers to have him circumcised.


4 posted on 03/13/2008 12:20:22 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Alouette

That happened to me when I was a baby - hurt so bad I couldn’t walk for a year after!


5 posted on 03/13/2008 12:22:39 PM PDT by Andonius_99 (There are two sides to every issue. One is right, the other is wrong; but the middle is always evil.)
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To: Alouette

Another sexually mutilated infant. Sad


6 posted on 03/13/2008 12:30:08 PM PDT by trane250
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To: Alouette

Good to see that there is still a large Jewish community in Odessa, they have not all moved to Brooklyn (’Little Odessa’)


7 posted on 03/13/2008 1:34:02 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (I'm here for a purpose. I know what my purpose is.)
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To: Alouette

They say sex is better for the man and woman when part of the penis hasn’t been cut off for ancient BS reasons.


8 posted on 03/14/2008 4:32:21 AM PDT by Impy ("Our rivers are full of fish..." B. H. Obama)
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To: Impy

Actually, I have heard the exact opposite.


9 posted on 03/14/2008 6:26:55 AM PDT by tuckrdout (The good man wins his case by careful argument; the evil-minded only wants to fight. Prov. 13:2)
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To: trane250

LOL...what an ignorant thing to say!


10 posted on 03/14/2008 6:28:28 AM PDT by tuckrdout (The good man wins his case by careful argument; the evil-minded only wants to fight. Prov. 13:2)
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To: tuckrdout

Click below to educate yourself, that is if you have a desire to wean yourself from religious stupidity.

http://www.cirp.org/


11 posted on 03/14/2008 4:53:02 PM PDT by trane250
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To: trane250

Oh, silly propaganda recommended by a bigot, is hardly an education.


12 posted on 03/14/2008 6:15:17 PM PDT by tuckrdout (The good man wins his case by careful argument; the evil-minded only wants to fight. Prov. 13:2)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
I hear that isn't a bad job for that area. The Mohel gets 100 skins a week and a chance to get ahead.
13 posted on 03/14/2008 6:19:17 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: tuckrdout

If you are religious I would ask why you think God created the penis the way he did if he intended for part of it to be sliced off.


14 posted on 03/15/2008 12:18:40 AM PDT by Impy ("Our rivers are full of fish..." B. H. Obama)
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Meaning? If He intended a part to be sliced off, then He would have to create the part to slice off - or not, His will be done.


15 posted on 03/15/2008 12:33:06 AM PDT by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: Alouette

Who would ever think to do that...unless God told them to do that?


16 posted on 03/15/2008 12:39:06 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Impy
I miss muh hoody.
17 posted on 03/15/2008 6:18:56 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~***Just say NO to the "O"***~~~)
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To: Impy

Well, then you would be asking the wrong person! I wasn’t elected, or appointed as God’s spokesperson. I suggest that you ask Him.

What I do know, is that in His life handbook,—the Bible— He demanded that His people perform this procedure. Since you aren’t one of His people, it wouldn’t seem to be something you need to concern yourself with. And yet you do..


18 posted on 03/16/2008 8:11:27 PM PDT by tuckrdout (The good man wins his case by careful argument; the evil-minded only wants to fight. Prov. 13:2)
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To: tuckrdout

Like the majority of Americans, I had this done to me as an infant, that is why I concern myself. Seems to me for most parents it’s just perfunctory, done simply because everyone does it. (The same reason blacks vote ‘rat.) If they have a reason it’s often because they think their son may face awkwardness or ridicule when the girlfriend or the guys in the lockeroom see it.

And this may be castigated as a “lib” argument but why should parents have the right to have their child’s body part’s removed? I would have liked to make the choice myself.


19 posted on 03/16/2008 11:51:34 PM PDT by Impy ("Our rivers are full of fish..." B. H. Obama)
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Well Sir, most men don’t feel like you do. I am sorry that you feel that you are missing something. I am sure that your parents felt that they were doing what was best for you.

AS a matter of fact, my father was born at home, and did not have it done to him, until he was 12 years old. At that time he had an operation, and the ole doctor went ahead and trimmed Dad up...I tell you what, Dad was surprized! But, Impy, I have to say, that Dad stated that having known what it was like before...and then (after healing) living afterward...he prefered the later. He did not get angry at anyone...the doc or the parents. He thought they did the right thing.

Listen, I actually have had all these arguments with my spouse, before our son was born. They didn’t want to get it done. It was a big argument for months before the birth.

Every male member on both sides were circumcised. I felt like it was a right thing to do. I didn’t want my son to feel different from his father, grandfathers and cousins...I didn’t want him to feel embarrassed.

A married person that we know, and who was never circumcised, was thoughtful enough to discuss this with us. He and his wife, both felt that it was unhealthy. Both of them had what they felt were more than the average yeast infections...which they attributed to his intact nature. But, of course, he didn’t want anyone cutting around there, NOW! YIKES! They had their son circumcised.

But, this did not convince my spouse! Then, the relatives got involved in our decision...it was ugly. My spouse and got into a HUGE argument with my grandmother, that never was resolved....

I felt very strongly in favor of the circumcision, but decided to pray about it. I asked God to tell us what he wanted us to do. Both of us. So, that this happy occasion would not be marred by this horrid argument.

We went to the hospital, still on opposite sides of the issue.

Our son was born. He was perfect.......except his foreskin was very tight, and grown over. Our son could not urinate, unless it was cut off!

God made the decision for us!


20 posted on 03/17/2008 4:18:51 AM PDT by tuckrdout (The good man wins his case by careful argument; the evil-minded only wants to fight. Prov. 13:2)
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