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Why so few Christians joining fight against The Mark?
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Posted on 03/11/2008 8:32:50 AM PDT by Dada Orwell

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MrVup9Dl4U

For over twenty years, "Patriot Pastor" Garrett Lear has strode the halls of New Hampshire's legislature...serving as a voice for his faith and his Revolutionary War ancestors. Today he talks with us about Real ID, the liberty deficit among Christians and his colorful outfit. Pastor Lear's church is in Wakefield, New Hampshire.

What do *you* think? Is Real ID the Mark of the Beast? A precursor to it? A bad thing? A good thing?


TOPICS: Apologetics; Current Events; Evangelical Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: 666; mob; motb; nh; pastor; realid; rfid
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To: Matchett-PI

Other priorities. Will try and look closer eventually.

So, you are hostile to Dispensationalism?


101 posted on 03/11/2008 10:34:56 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Matchett-PI

I guess I should try harder to keep all the $10 words straight.

LOL.


102 posted on 03/11/2008 10:35:18 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: F15Eagle

I believe it’s coming, and that it’s not something you can “accidentally” do (like accepting a Kroger frequent-purchase card). You would have to know that you are engaging in a depraved act and do so willingly.

It would appear that the remedy is to get saved (or if you are a Calvinist, to hope you are on God’s A-list). I presume a once-saved-always-saved person isn’t going to be enamored of the beast if indeed that person is still around at that time.


103 posted on 03/11/2008 10:35:26 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Matchett-PI; Quix; Dr. Eckleburg; wmfights; Alamo-Girl; HarleyD
From the bible, we see that God expressly commanded Israel to never number the people. When this commandment was broken by David (2 Samuel 24) Israel was punished.

So it is a command of God not to number His people.

Now note, this is His people, not the rest of the world.

Christ has numbered all who are His with His blood. He knows who they are. Mankind does not know who they are.

The only way that you can identify with "the Beast" is to think (forehead) and act (right hand) like the beast. When you don't, but live as a holy people separate from the world, you will endure persecution. Or you can fit in with the crowd, it's your choice. The elect will never do it.

104 posted on 03/11/2008 10:35:46 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: 11bravo wolfhoundf

Thanks tons.

Likewise.


105 posted on 03/11/2008 10:36:07 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix; stuartcr
I believe you are talking about Echelon which is widely known to exist though the workings of it remains a closely held secret.
106 posted on 03/11/2008 10:40:28 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: DonnerT

I’m not a JW.

I think issues that starkly important will not be fuzzy things.

A lot of frog in the bucket stuff leads up to that . . . but I think that major a decision will be starkly laid out.


107 posted on 03/11/2008 10:41:00 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Alamo-Girl

True.

And, I wouldn’t doubt that there are various layers of such efforts . . . depending on whatever flags are raised about a given source, phone number, ISP, screen name, etc.

Thanks much for your link.


108 posted on 03/11/2008 10:42:42 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: 1000 silverlings
Truly, the elect cannot be fooled.

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect. - Matthew 24:24

And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers. – John 10:4-5

My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: - John 10:27

No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. – John 6:44

Maranatha, Jesus!!!

109 posted on 03/11/2008 10:43:07 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

OUR BLESSED HOPE HOLDS US SECURELY.


110 posted on 03/11/2008 10:43:53 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: nmh
As a pretribber, I won’t receiving “the mark”

If you're a born again Christian, and there is no other kind, neither of us will be here when AntiChrist is revealed so we don't have to worry about the "mark". And neither will the saved midtribbers and postribbers who think we will all be here unless we die first.

The mark of the Beast would not be on my "things to worry about" list if I had such a list, which of course I don't. Why worry and make yourself miserable when you can trust God to ALWAYS do what is best for you in every situation whether you realize it at the time or not?

112 posted on 03/11/2008 10:47:40 AM PDT by epow (The scriptures teach that rulers should be men who rule in the fear of God, - Noah Webster,1823)
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To: Quix

Right, there are secret microphones in your home satellite box, just like the ones in everyones home PC and cable box. I bet it would be impossible to prove, due to it’s highly classified nature of course.


113 posted on 03/11/2008 10:47:59 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: Quix
I really don't worry about “the mark”.

God is in control.

He will protect His own. What concerns me MORE is Bible based Christianity being watered down and disappearing from our society, It is lack of BELIEF that I am more concerned about as we “Slouch towards Gomorrah”.

114 posted on 03/11/2008 10:49:53 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Quix; stuartcr
I would imagine the War on Terror has made signals intelligence (Echelon et al) a top priority to prevent future terrorist attacks. OTOH, under the current administration, I also imagine they are not screening for religious beliefs except perhaps radical Islamic keywords or phrases, e.g. suicidal intentions.

However, it seems reasonable to me that an administration which would have a "bone to pick" with fundamentalist Christians [Clinton or Obama] would also be looking for Christian keywords or phrases under the pretext of preventing another Timothy McVeigh. And from that, it would be only a short step to an international clampdown on Christianity at large.

115 posted on 03/11/2008 10:50:13 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Quix
Indeed, that is why a Christian should never worry about the end times prophesies - only be watchful and prepared.

Thank you for your encouragements, dear brother in Christ!

116 posted on 03/11/2008 10:51:40 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: stuartcr

Some things I’m not certain of. Some things I am.

I have come to think that the sources about the cable boxes are diverse and significant enough that I mostly believe that.

I believe the stuff about cell phones.

I don’t know about satellite boxes.

I certainly believe black ops folks have access to all computers by any number of back doors etc. and that they have various agreements with anti-spyware etc. companies insuring such access.

But, hey, far be it from me to hinder someone’s whistling by the grave yard in abject denial. I think folks should be as blissful as long as possible.

Unless, of course, they’d like to be above average prepared for what’s coming down the Pike.


117 posted on 03/11/2008 10:52:14 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: 1000 silverlings

Sorry, but I’m not a Chiliast.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1983867/posts?page=85#85


119 posted on 03/11/2008 10:52:23 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (Romney will get the VP nod - or else.)
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To: Alamo-Girl

The Radical Left views Christians as exactly the same as radical islamists. Don’t wonder about it, they do and they say so.


120 posted on 03/11/2008 10:52:27 AM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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