Posted on 03/08/2008 5:14:33 PM PST by Zakeet
Spanish-speakers are fueling growth in the local Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which recently opened new worship space on Tucson's predominantly Hispanic South Side.
Many local Mormon worshippers, like 47-year-old Juan Arroyo, converted to the faith from Catholicism while living in their native countries. Arroyo, a roofer who has four children, joined the church when he lived in Guadalajara, Mexico. He's been in the United States for seven years.
"I was missing something, and my life changed greatly after meeting the missionaries," he said in Spanish.
Nationally, the number of Spanish-speaking congregations in the Mormon church grew by 64 percent between 2000 and 2006. There are 639 such congregations in the United States.
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The church is growing quickly in Mexico.
Church officials say its presence there began in 1875 when Brigham Young, then denomination president, called on six missionaries from Salt Lake City to bring Spanish-language materials about the church to Mexico. In 1885, a group of nearly 400 colonists from Utah arrived at northern Mexico's Casas Grandes River. Mexico's first stake was created in Colonia Juárez in 1895. By 1912, more than 4,000 members had settled in Chihuahua and Sonora.
More than 1 million members now live in Mexico, a predominantly Catholic country with a population of about 108 million.
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So who is the true Prophet the Bible tells us to look for?
You do believe what the Bible says, dont you?
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Fred, the Bible scripture please...
(1 John 4:2-3.)
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
Ps.
Since your Bible says there will be true Prophets, where are they?
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Fred, that passage is about discerning the spirits, not about knowing who are “true” prophets...
That's because it isn't in there.
If you think you can spin...
I will command my people into an acceptance of polygamy, we would SURE like to see the logic.
No, it isn't.
It's a STANDARD technique used by LDS apologists in these threads.
It's got it's own number in...
The LIST!
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Version Number When Published Brief Description |
Age Year |
Pillar of light |
No. of Person- ages |
Father Present |
Son Present |
Question: Join What Sect? |
Remarks-References |
1. Offical version, written 1838,
first Published 1842
(There are minor differences between the various source references,
Ensign Jan 1985, page 14)
|
14
1820 |
yes | 2 |
yes
Both spoke |
yes |
Join none |
Lucy, Hyrum, Samuel, Sophronia join the Presbyterian Church - JSH, pages 49-50, 1981 edition;
Times & Seasons, March, April 1842;
Ensign Jan. 1985, page 14;
Joseph Smith's First Vision by
Milton V. Backamn, Bookcraft, 1971, 1980, Appendix C, page 160f
|
2. Dictated by Smith to F.G. Williams, Summer to Nov. 1832 | 14 or 15 | yes |
1 | no |
yes Saw Lord, He "spoke" |
No question,
told "None doeth good",
sins forgiven
|
Joseph Smith's First Vision, Appendix A, page 155f |
3. Written by Smith,
his 1832 diary,
in his own hand
|
15 |
yes |
1 |
no |
yes Saw the Lord Jesus Christ |
No question,
told sins forgiven,
all do no good
|
Ensign, Dec. 1984, pages 24-26; ibid, Jan. 1985, page 11 |
4. Smith's diary of 1835,
recorded by
Warren Cowdery,
Nov. 9, 1835, conversation of Smith with Joshua
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About 14 |
yes |
One, then another like unto first |
?
|
?
Second spoke, saw many angels
|
No questions,
told sins forgiven,
Jesus is Son
|
Joseph Smith's First Vision, Appen. B |
5. Letter form Smith to
John Wentworth,
editor of Chicago Democrat
|
none |
no |
2 |
? They spoke |
? |
No Question |
Joseph Smith's First Vision, Appendix D;
Ensign, Jan 1985, page 16;
Times & Seasons, Vol 3, pages 706-707, March 1, 1842
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6. Early church leaders
Brigham Young, G.A.Smith,
John Taylor
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15 |
no |
1 Saw an angel, and asked the angel |
no |
no |
Join none |
See Journal of Discourses,
2:17;
18:239;
13:77, 78;
20:167;
12:333, 334.
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Oh?
Show us.
Good question!
Just WHERE does the BIBLE 'teach' that?
First - the scripture passage is not a prophetic pronouncement by smith.
Second - what is the context of the verse, as context provides meaning. John was writing against the teachings of gnostics (I'll let you read up on them). They specifically taught that the "Christ" could never take material form. While this was one method of identifying false prophets, it must remain balanced with the WHOLE teaching of the Bible. Finally, this assumes that smith was truly speaking in an inspired fashion as man can very well LIE. In view of smith's track record, the latter is more likely than the former.
I guess you HAVE been hangin' with ELSIE too much!
The bible tell us there will be prophets, but since you fail to read the context within prophets work within the NT era today, suffice it to say that your definition of a prophet is different from Biblical definitions.
I’m larnin’ from tha best...
:)
How Mormon's deal with data presented to them by those they call ANTI's:
1. How you interpret it is wrong... |
The Bible tell us of false living prophets, but not a true singular prophet.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
no wonder Fred thinks that God is confused...
Even God needs a program to keep up with Joseph Smith’s wild imagination and tall tales...
:)
Ha!
You ain't been payin' attention!
We don't defend; we call into question YOUR beliefs and make YOU defend!
--MormonDude(Our stuff NEEDS no defense!)
#12 with a bit of "you go look for it" thrown in.
Showing them scripture doesn’t mean anything to a Mormon. They don’t believe in the Bible. Their Bible is the BOM ONLY...NOT the KJV as they pretend.
Funny how the Bible is only used to show ERROR but the BOM is infallable!
Berean Christian Ministries? Isn’t that a Baptist group? And aren’t they now converting to Algore Environmentalism from “Christianity”?
#18
Careful of the references since they refer to pronouns!
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