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Catholic League: McCain Embraces Bigot [John Hagee]
Catholic Online ^ | 2/29/2008 | Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights

Posted on 02/28/2008 4:40:37 PM PST by Alex Murphy

NEW YORK, N.Y. (Catholic League) - Yesterday, Senator John McCain said he was “very honored by Pastor John Hagee’s endorsement.”

The Republican presidential hopeful also called Hagee “the staunchest leader of our Christian evangelical movement,” citing the minister’s pro-Israel stance.

Catholic League president Bill Donohue addressed this today:

“There are plenty of staunch evangelical leaders who are pro-Israel, but are not anti-Catholic. John Hagee is not one of them. Indeed, for the past few decades, he has waged an unrelenting war against the Catholic Church.

For example, he likes calling it ‘The Great Whore,’ an ‘apostate church,’ the ‘anti-Christ,’ and a ‘false cult system.’ To hear the bigot in his own words, click here. http://youtube.com/watch?v=uViQ0hVV57Q

Note: he isn’t talking about the Buddhists.

“In Hagee’s latest book, Jerusalem Countdown, he calls Hitler a Catholic who murdered Jews while the Catholic Church did nothing. ‘The sell-out of Catholicism to Hitler began not with the people but with the Vatican itself,’ he writes.

“For the record, Hitler persecuted the Catholic Church and was automatically excommunicated in 1931—two years before he assumed power—when he acted as best man at Joseph Goebbel’s Protestant wedding. Hitler even bragged about his separation from the Church.

As for doing nothing about the Holocaust, Sir Martin Gilbert reminds us that Goebbels denounced Pope Pius XII for his 1942 Christmas message criticizing the Nazis (the New York Times lauded the pope for doing so in an editorial for two years in a row).

Much to Hagee’s chagrin, Gilbert also says that Pius XII saved three quarters of the Jews in Rome, and that more Jews were saved proportionately in Catholic countries than Protestant countries. Indeed, Israeli diplomat Pinchas Lapide credited the Catholic Church with saving 860,000 Jews. No religion can match that.

(Excerpt) Read more at catholic.org ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Evangelical Christian; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: christianvote; donohue; hagee; hageebashing; icallbs; mccain; tx2008
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To: sandyeggo
Let's get real here because Hitler was a Roman Catholic to the day he died..."I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so," Hitler told Gerhard Engel, one of his generals, in 1941. click here
81 posted on 02/29/2008 12:38:17 PM PST by meandog (Please pray for future President McCain--day minus 325 and counting! Stay home and get Baraked!)
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To: Petronski
Fundamentalist Protestants must believe the Catholic Church is "the whore of Babylon" or else become Catholics themselves. Why is this so hard to understand?

Because it is absurd.

It's also absurd to believe that the Jews (in particular the Orthodox "Talmudists") are the "real power" behind Freemasonry, Communism, liberalism, and modern liberal Biblical theories (which Orthodox Judaism utterly rejects), but that doesn't keep people like Metatics, Sungenis, Haigh, Gumaes, Solange Herz, Sobran, and other Catholics from insisting on it. In fact, there was a link to an anti-Jewish Catholic article on "the Jews run Freemasonry" in a recent thread on FR.

I guess what goes around comes around.

82 posted on 02/29/2008 12:51:10 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator ('Elleh hadevarim 'asher-tzivvah HaShem la`asot 'otam.)
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To: meandog

He was an excommunicate, non-practicing Catholic in a state of serious sin, sure.


83 posted on 02/29/2008 12:54:17 PM PST by Campion
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Are you blaming all Catholics for what those people do?


84 posted on 02/29/2008 1:02:57 PM PST by Petronski (Nice job, Hillary. Now go home and get your shine box.)
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To: meandog

How many of Hitler’s lies do you credit as truth?


85 posted on 02/29/2008 1:05:56 PM PST by Petronski (Nice job, Hillary. Now go home and get your shine box.)
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To: Petronski
Are you blaming all Catholics for what those people do?

Of course not. Did I say I did?

But I do think there is a kind of "poetic justice" to Catholics in America reliving what Jews in medieval Europe went through (prejudice against "urban, intellectual, cosmopolitan" people practicing a "chr*stless works religion" from members of a daughter faith).

86 posted on 02/29/2008 1:09:59 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator ('Elleh hadevarim 'asher-tzivvah HaShem la`asot 'otam.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Of course not. Did I say I did?

I am glad you do not. That being said, your paragraph is an classic non-sequitur, unconnected with my comment, and designed more as an effort to move away from your prior, absurd point. Such a concession is eminently wise.

87 posted on 02/29/2008 1:29:43 PM PST by Petronski (Nice job, Hillary. Now go home and get your shine box.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Of all the mainline Christian religions, the Roman Catholic church has to rank first as the most abusive oppressors of Jews (that is not to say, my RC FRiends, that the protestant community gets off free but, at least, it did not have a history where Jews were once burned at the stake in Spain during the inquisition under infamous RC monarch such as Phillip II). The apology to Jews that Pope John-Paul II made on behalf of the Roman Catholic church, however, is one of the hallmarks of his great and sainted life.
88 posted on 02/29/2008 1:33:33 PM PST by meandog (Please pray for future President McCain--day minus 325 and counting! Stay home and get Baraked!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Ya I wouln’t want to answer that question either.


89 posted on 02/29/2008 2:26:01 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

***Ya I wouln’t want to answer that question either.****

If you want to PAY for my opinion on it why don’t you make a $100.00 donation to FR and I will give, er, sell you my opinion.


90 posted on 02/29/2008 2:42:49 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Only infidel blood can quench Muslim thirst-- Abdul-Jalil Nazeer al-Karouri)
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To: pissant

Well, hope God doesn’t take you to task for that, pissant. It doesn’t make Him happy when we’re always bashing those he calls to evangelize. I’m not saying they’re all doing what they should either, but He did call them to it.


91 posted on 02/29/2008 2:43:22 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
If you want to PAY for my opinion on it why don’t you make a $100.00 donation to FR and I will give, er, sell you my opinion

That would almost be worth your exposure. By the way, do you have a green card?

92 posted on 02/29/2008 2:46:00 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Marysecretary

Well, maybe he should stick to evangelizing and quit with the anti-Catholic nonsense.


93 posted on 02/29/2008 2:54:01 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Petronski

How conveeeenient.


94 posted on 02/29/2008 6:09:43 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose))
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

***By the way, do you have a green card?***

I don’t need one.


95 posted on 02/29/2008 6:14:47 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Only infidel blood can quench Muslim thirst-- Abdul-Jalil Nazeer al-Karouri)
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To: Alex Murphy

The GOP tolerates anti-Catholicism more than antisemitism.


96 posted on 02/29/2008 6:16:45 PM PST by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: Zionist Conspirator
I invite you to join me in denouncing uncalled-for remarks about Rev. Hagee's physical appearance, which have nothing to do with his theology one way or another.

He's a pig on the inside too. A hateful heap of dung. I'd like to meet him so I could spit in his eye. Most of these holier-than-thou Bible-thumping TV preacher scum are among the greatest of depraved perverts themselves.

97 posted on 02/29/2008 8:14:53 PM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: pissant
That fat little troll of a preacher doesn’t know his ass from a hole in the ground.

Totally agree. I stand with Barry Goldwater on the question of money-grubbing hypocritical perverted TV preacher Pharisees. Kick 'em all right in the ass!

-ccm

98 posted on 02/29/2008 8:18:02 PM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: sandyeggo

Praeger is about 90% accurate on that and I too have heard conservative Jews say the same.

I see it in most tripe that comes from Hollywood in TV and film.

a rabid hatred on Christianity more often than not from folks with Jewish surnames....it’s just how it is.

acknowledging that whther from Prager or Savage or me is not anti-Semitism any more than mentioning fatherless young black males are too violent crime prone....they are

is mentioning lower income women of all races are more prone to children out of wedlock bigoted?

we could go on and on

don’t state facts even if they sit on your face and fart.

btw...I like Jews and lament the hostility many of them have for my culture but I don’t know how to address that if I can’t


99 posted on 02/29/2008 8:22:28 PM PST by wardaddy (Obama: The candidate for those who think Deliverance was a documentary.)
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To: Marysecretary
It doesn’t make Him happy when we’re always bashing those he calls to evangelize.

It doesn't make Him happy when the filthy TV preacher mountebanks scoop up tax-exempt donations from poor widows and buy themselves Rolexes and Learjets, either. They are not just swindling money from gullible old church ladies; they're stealing it from all the rest of of us who pay taxes on our earnings.

And it sure doesn't do much for Christian evangelism when the most loudmouthed and judgmental holier-than-thou TV preachers get caught in adultery, buggery, drug addiction, drunkenness, and all other kinds of sin and depravity. I think those who point the finger the most are the same ones who are doing the worst evil themselves.

100 posted on 02/29/2008 8:24:42 PM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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