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Catholic League: McCain Embraces Bigot [John Hagee]
Catholic Online ^ | 2/29/2008 | Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights

Posted on 02/28/2008 4:40:37 PM PST by Alex Murphy

NEW YORK, N.Y. (Catholic League) - Yesterday, Senator John McCain said he was “very honored by Pastor John Hagee’s endorsement.”

The Republican presidential hopeful also called Hagee “the staunchest leader of our Christian evangelical movement,” citing the minister’s pro-Israel stance.

Catholic League president Bill Donohue addressed this today:

“There are plenty of staunch evangelical leaders who are pro-Israel, but are not anti-Catholic. John Hagee is not one of them. Indeed, for the past few decades, he has waged an unrelenting war against the Catholic Church.

For example, he likes calling it ‘The Great Whore,’ an ‘apostate church,’ the ‘anti-Christ,’ and a ‘false cult system.’ To hear the bigot in his own words, click here. http://youtube.com/watch?v=uViQ0hVV57Q

Note: he isn’t talking about the Buddhists.

“In Hagee’s latest book, Jerusalem Countdown, he calls Hitler a Catholic who murdered Jews while the Catholic Church did nothing. ‘The sell-out of Catholicism to Hitler began not with the people but with the Vatican itself,’ he writes.

“For the record, Hitler persecuted the Catholic Church and was automatically excommunicated in 1931—two years before he assumed power—when he acted as best man at Joseph Goebbel’s Protestant wedding. Hitler even bragged about his separation from the Church.

As for doing nothing about the Holocaust, Sir Martin Gilbert reminds us that Goebbels denounced Pope Pius XII for his 1942 Christmas message criticizing the Nazis (the New York Times lauded the pope for doing so in an editorial for two years in a row).

Much to Hagee’s chagrin, Gilbert also says that Pius XII saved three quarters of the Jews in Rome, and that more Jews were saved proportionately in Catholic countries than Protestant countries. Indeed, Israeli diplomat Pinchas Lapide credited the Catholic Church with saving 860,000 Jews. No religion can match that.

(Excerpt) Read more at catholic.org ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Evangelical Christian; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: christianvote; donohue; hagee; hageebashing; icallbs; mccain; tx2008
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1 posted on 02/28/2008 4:40:40 PM PST by Alex Murphy
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So sad that I need to post this twice...

“I like your Christ, I don’t like your Christians, you are so unlike your Christ”.

Ghandi


2 posted on 02/28/2008 4:43:32 PM PST by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Alex Murphy

The Republican presidential hopeful also called Hagee “the staunchest leader of our Christian evangelical movement,” citing the minister’s pro-Israel stance.

What? Who is this guy, never heard of him.


3 posted on 02/28/2008 4:46:09 PM PST by svcw (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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To: Alex Murphy

This guy is right out of the Fred Phelps school of reformed (read that false) theology. It’s a shame that the name Christian is sullied by these so-called preachers of the book.


4 posted on 02/28/2008 4:48:06 PM PST by big'ol_freeper (REAGAN: "..party..must represent certain fundamental beliefs [not] compromised..[for] expediency")
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To: Alex Murphy; 1000 silverlings; Lord_Calvinus; blue-duncan; Uncle Chip; topcat54; Gamecock; ...
“For the record, Hitler persecuted the Catholic Church and was automatically excommunicated in 1931

Wow. Talk about rewriting history.

Hitler was never excommunicated.

And plenty of Catholics on this website have stated this, giving the reason for the absence of Hitler's excommunication as "there was no need to do so."

I guess the RCC realized that was a pretty flimsy excuse, so now they've changed their approach. lol. When the truth doesn't work, go to Plan B...C...D...

5 posted on 02/28/2008 5:15:32 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose))
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To: big'ol_freeper

Nope. Hagee is not reformed. (And Phelps is in a category all his own.)


6 posted on 02/28/2008 5:17:21 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose))
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What? Who is this guy, never heard of him.

Never heard of John Hagee? Oh, man!

Texass Baptist megachurch pastor. Big end times guy, with a "thing" about Jews (not needing Jesus). (To Mr. Hagee's way of thinking, they got a special in with God. They just obey the Law, and they're home free. Yeah, that's the ticket.)

Here's a choice video of Mr. Hagee on YooToob. (This one caused him some trouble last year. He did some fast talking to cover his left behind on that one.)

7 posted on 02/28/2008 5:32:50 PM PST by Lee N. Field ("dispensationalism -- splitting into 5 or 6 disparate pieces what God has joined together")
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To: Lee N. Field

Based on what you have said, I am glad I never heard of him.


8 posted on 02/28/2008 5:34:37 PM PST by svcw (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
The irony is so rich, I have to laugh. Bill Donohue, president of the Catholic League calls Hagee a bigot, when Donohue himself lambastes the Jews.
9 posted on 02/28/2008 5:38:08 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" -- Galatians 4:16)
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To: Lee N. Field
I just watched the video - what a nut and JM embraces this guys endorsement.
10 posted on 02/28/2008 5:39:43 PM PST by svcw (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Ironic, if it weren’t so sad.


11 posted on 02/28/2008 5:41:59 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose))
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To: svcw

You go to the prophecy/endtimes section of a Christian bookstore you’ll see his stuff. Or secular — I’ve seen plenty in Border’s.


13 posted on 02/28/2008 5:42:34 PM PST by Lee N. Field ("dispensationalism -- splitting into 5 or 6 disparate pieces what God has joined together")
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Alex Murphy; 1000 silverlings; Lord_Calvinus; blue-duncan; Uncle Chip; topcat54; ...
For my Protestant friends-Since the author mentioned Buddha this reminded me of something I heard today. Did you know the Buddhist venerate the sacred tooth relic of Buddha? This is believed to have been the actual tooth of Buddha himself. (Mr. Big) They have built a shrine to the tooth, have a day set aside to celebrate the tooth, and the tooth has even been known to once rescued the people from a severe drought. They don't worship the tooth since that is reserved for Buddha but they venerate the tooth. Ah, the marvels of dentistry.

Well, we learn something everyday. I'm sure Pastor John Hagee would have plenty to say about the Buddhist, if he considers the Catholics to be "the apostate church". I’ll have to file this one.

14 posted on 02/28/2008 5:49:34 PM PST by HarleyD
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To: Alex Murphy

****In Hagee’s latest book, Jerusalem Countdown, ****

You mean there are still people who buy this junk?


16 posted on 02/28/2008 5:53:11 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Only infidel blood can quench Muslim thirst-- Abdul-Jalil Nazeer al-Karouri)
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To: sandyeggo

Do you think any differently of the sentiment if said by Dennis Prager, an observant Jew?...

...I entirely doubt it would have any effect at all upon their thinking...I suspect nothing short of a blatant Catholic bash will ever register on their radar...


17 posted on 02/28/2008 6:50:54 PM PST by IrishBrigade
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Do you think any differently of the sentiment if said by Dennis Prager, an observant Jew?

I didn't see Dennis Prager address the sexual proclivities or practices of the Jews. Did you leave that part out of your excerpt?

18 posted on 02/28/2008 7:00:30 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" -- Galatians 4:16)
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To: svcw

Huckabee recently spoke there, as well.


19 posted on 02/28/2008 7:00:51 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: svcw

Huckabee recently spoke there, as well.


20 posted on 02/28/2008 7:00:53 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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