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To: Godzilla

“So it is clear that you condemn the founder of your church, Joe Smith, but you just can’t face the fact that he violated the law, he violated D&C, he violated the BOM. No, its not too bad for me, but it is too bad for you. You are selling your soul to a snake oil salesman. Take a close look.”.

See, I knew you were interested in pulling some garbage scumbag type move like that no matter what I said. Are you now saying that all polygamy in history was wrong? Yes or no. Come on, snakeoil salesman, say it. Then we will start going into mainstream polygamists over the centuries. And you are not in any position to condemn the Prophet Joseph Smith based on sleazy writings by anti-mormons like yourself.


1,641 posted on 03/01/2008 5:29:00 AM PST by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: Old Mountain man
And you are not in any position to condemn the Prophet Joseph Smith based on sleazy writings by anti-mormons like yourself.

You are quite right on this one!

JS condemned himself by NOT following what the BIBLE said about more than one wife.

Worse than that, he did not even follow the words of the Book of Morman; that HE translated!


 

 1 Timothy 3:2-3
 2.  Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,
 3.  not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.
 
 
1 Timothy 3:12
   A deacon must be the husband of but one wife and must manage his children and his household well.
 
 
 Titus 1:6
   An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient.
 

 
THE BOOK OF JACOB
THE BROTHER OF NEPHI
CHAPTER 2:24-32
 
  24 Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.
  25 Wherefore, thus saith the Lord, I have led this people forth out of the land of Jerusalem, by the power of mine arm, that I might raise up unto me a righteous branch from the fruit of the loins of Joseph.
  26 Wherefore, I the Lord God will not suffer that this people shall do like unto them of old.
  27 Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none;
  28 For I, the Lord God, delight in the chastity of women. And whoredoms are an abomination before me; thus saith the Lord of Hosts.
  29 Wherefore, this people shall keep my commandments, saith the Lord of Hosts, or cursed be the land for their sakes.
  30 For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; otherwise they shall hearken unto these things.
  31 For behold, I, the Lord, have seen the sorrow, and heard the mourning of the daughters of my people in the land of Jerusalem, yea, and in all the lands of my people, because of the wickedness and abominations of their husbands.
  32 And I will not suffer, saith the Lord of Hosts, that the cries of the fair daughters of this people, which I have led out of the land of Jerusalem, shall come up unto me against the men of my people, saith the Lord of Hosts.
 

1,648 posted on 03/01/2008 5:38:19 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Old Mountain man
See, I knew you were interested in pulling some garbage scumbag type move like that no matter what I said.

Oh really??? The fact is that you could not/would not be honest with the simple facts surrounding your 'founder'.

And you are not in any position to condemn the Prophet Joseph Smith based on sleazy writings by anti-mormons like yourself.

Pssst OMM, I cited KJV, BOM and D&C - are you saying that those are now ANTI-MORMON writings???!!!!??? Those pesky facts, huh.

1,663 posted on 03/01/2008 6:04:38 AM PST by Godzilla (My ancestors were humans. Sorry to hear about yours.)
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To: Old Mountain man; Godzilla
And you are not in any position to condemn the Prophet Joseph Smith based on sleazy writings

Yeah...And, unfortunately for you, the author of those sleazy writings, that we so often post verbatim...is, none other than Joseph Smith, himself (or Brigham Young, or Joseph Fielding Smith, or _________Mormon prophet!

1,693 posted on 03/01/2008 12:18:54 PM PST by pby
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