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Posted on 02/22/2008 9:11:12 AM PST by Zakeet
They're called the "Lost Boys," the teenagers kicked out of their homes and communities by leaders of the polygamist Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints to ensure there's an ample supply of single, young women who will one day become plural wives. Representative Lorie Fowlke (R-Orem), is running a bill to make this abandonment a felony.
"Estimates are that we've had more than 1,000 children - primarily in southern Utah - thrown out of their homes," Fowlke says. "What we were trying to do with this bill is criminalize this behavior and send a message to this community that they can't just throw away their children."
H.B. 23 adds child abandonment to the definition of child abuse, and makes it a felony crime. It also adds an enhancement if a parent or organization benefits from the child's abandonment to further an illegal enterprise, such as polygamy. This is the case with the FLDS church, says Roger Hoole, a lawyer who represents some of the displaced young men and sits on the board for the Utah Association for Justice. He says the church benefits from kicking out young men who would compete for plural wives. This, he says, has devastating consequences.
"There's a huge impact that's coming, like a tsunami, that's going to hit the state of Utah, when these boys get a little older and realize what has happened to them and get angry," Hoole says. "There's a real problem here."
Fowlke's bill gained unanimous support in a Senate committee this morning, and now heads to the full Senate for consideration.
Yea!
Only 64 minutes today!!
A little knowledge can be misleading you folks never really study our faith but think you are experts and only get yourselves confused.
don’t need to, if you really want to know than come and study our faith in sunday school for 4 years!
Its a revelation don’t expect one who is in *natural man mode to understand in.
*those who are hateful, rail, speaks ill against the Church or another for sport.
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"Those scriptures I gave pretty much describes the degrees of what I said.
Gal 5 (behavior of the natural man)
19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Even when man is sarcastic or get mean towards another or try to spin another ones words that is the natural man state.
The Holy Spirit is unable to visit or dwell in a vessels like that.
1 Cor. 2: 14
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned
James 1: 23
23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass"
Eye Roll.
Been there, done that, taught the class, have the star on my forehead to prove it! :-)
This doesn’t exactly sound like a sinner who wanted the “easier” life does it?
http://www.exmormon.org/boards/w-agora/view.php?bn=exmobb_recovery&key=1203872202&newest=1203954683
Sometimes I Wish I Could Go Home. I had lunch some time ago with a bright faced young man. He is my friend, he feels like my son, he was my AP. I’ve written about him before. He called me the other day, said he had some news, could I spare some time. Always. I arranged to pick him up. He opened the door with outstretched arms, a warm embrace, one without reservation, one full of love.
“I love you president”.
“I love you too”, “you don’t need to call me that anymore you’re a grown man now”.
“Don’t know what else I’d call you!”
“Well, my name is good.”
“OK, I’ll try president.”
“Thanks Elder” I say with a smirk. He repeats my given name with a silly grin on his face.
The restaurant was uncrowded. The lunch crowd has dissipated, and the dinner crowd was a long way off. The waiter was friendly, and patient, it took us a half hour to even look at the menu. It was fun talking to my friend, my son.
“We are pregnant”, he blurted out with a tremendous grin. “You’re name will be his middle name.”
Tears welled up. “Are you sure?, what an honor.”
“I want to make sure that you stand in the circle when we bless him”.
My heart skipped a beat, and sunk just a bit. An old longing tugged at my chest. I didn’t answer, instead “how do you know it will be a HIM?”
His face was beaming, his countenance bright, he didn’t miss a beat, “because you’re name in the middle would be weird for a girl”.
There was that laugh I love to hear. The laugh of an all too serious young man. An incredible young man. It’s hard for me to admit that the Church has played a large role in his making. Yet I know it did. He asked again, “so you’ll be there right”.
“I’ll try”.
His smile faded a little, “I know you’ll be there.” He has no idea.
Sometimes I want to go back. Sometimes I yearn for it. Sometimes I’ve laid awake at night and thought about what I have lost, what might have been had I continued in faith. Contrary to popular Mormon belief, the road out of Mormonism is not the easier path. At least not for me. I often long for the brotherhood, I miss the surety of the meaning of life. I long for the common goals and faith that bound me so firmly to my community, and to my family. I miss the contentment of faith in a benevolent and loving Father in Heaven. There is much to regret on the path out of Mormonism. It is a road often strewn with sacrifice and tears. It is a road that disappoints so many who love me, and I them. I’ve often wondered if the sacrifice to myself of feigning belief was worth the benefit of the happiness it would bring to those that surround me. But what of integrity, what of truth to thine own self?
And so it is this very longing, this very loss of contentment, this very affront to the truth which rips at my very heart that brings me to despise the lie. The lie that promised me so much, that exacted from me my very soul, and then is revealed a deception with evidence so clear that the honest mind must yield, at least it is so with me. Where once was brotherhood is now only loneliness, where once was surety is now only doubt, were once was contentment is now only disgust, were once was love is now only spite. And yet one is truth, the other a lie.
Oh what might have been? For me the Church has made the lie sweet, and the truth bitter. There is no turning back. There is no way to gain ignorance where it is replaced with knowledge. And yet ignorance was blissful wasn’t it? What might have been had a lie not turned my world on it’s end. I can never know. I only know I was happier before. Perhaps it’s not bad to be a little naive. Alas, I can never go home for it would require a suspension of reason beyond my ability.
A sad story...this gentleman doesn’t seem to fit the template that has been presented recently, does he?
Sounds like an ex Mormon pretender to me.
Sorry, but I have seen this in a couple of places where a great deal of attention/adoration is being given.
Not sure I follow...you have seen this exact story elsewhere?
Bing, if you go to the site, and read the responses to this post, you’ll read several stories of people that didn’t leave the LDS Church to “sin,” but left it under emotional duress after they discoved the lies inherrant in Mormonism.
It isn’t uncommon at all.
There are many posters who post to both sites ex-mormon.org and postmormon.org.
Steve Benson and Ty Bachman are two examples. This doesn’t discount his story in any way, but it is possible, that some TBM is trying to post a story to prompt ex-mormons into regret for leaving. As the poster states....you can’t go home.
This is indeed a “lets wait and see” situation.
I hope it is real. Can’t stand being taken in though with “too good to be true” stories.
Well, our resident expert on motives hasn't weighed in yet...that may settle the question. ;)
ROTFLAICGU!!!!
Such is a common reply to testimonies from exmormons - besmirch the character of the writer. Here we see that the tactic is that the individual is narcissic - seeking only attention for themselves - a mild ad homonym attack. Common deflectors up response since the only true witness is that of mormons.
Sounds like the plight of young bucks in deer or elk herds.
Utah Binger is an ex-mormon.
I must say that we exers must be suspicious of both those who claim to be Mormons and those who claim to be exes.
Quite often TBMs (TrueBlue Mormons)will act like exers and claim that life is unbearable without the Church. This is a lame attempt to get us to regret our decision to leave, Sometimes atheists will claim to be Mormon-sympathetic as a way to sow discord among the Christians and cast doubt on any believer in God....but once the lies and deception of Mormonism are uncovered, you can’t go back. It’s like putting toothpaste back into the tube.
Understood, and filed away for future reference.
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