Posted on 02/19/2008 4:46:10 PM PST by Zakeet
In his pursuit of the presidency, Mitt Romney held fast to his Mormon faith, though his religion remains controversial with evangelicals and some other Christians. But his determined (and ultimately futile) wooing of evangelicals led him to make some statements that didn't quite square with Mormon beliefs and culture. And the effort itself may have deepened the impression of him as inauthentic—even to some fellow Mormons.
Early in his presidential bid, Romney was asked what he thought of polygamy. Prompted by what they considered a divine revelation, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints discontinued the practice more than a century ago, and the church distances itself from polygamist "fundamentalists." But Romney went one step further, saying he couldn't "imagine anything more awful than polygamy." Many Mormons were privately taken aback. Mormons believe that, in its time, "plural marriage" was a commandment from God, and they are, as a group, fiercely proud of their ancestors, hundreds of whom practiced polygamy. (Romney's own great-grandfather had five wives.) LDS church members loathe the polygamy stereotypes and jokes bandied by outsiders. But hearing Romney—the most recognizable face of their faith these days—disavow it in those terms was mildly unsettling to LDS insiders.
Others were puzzled to hear Romney say he reads the Gideon Bible—a version popular with evangelicals: Mormons uniformly study the King James version, in a Salt Lake edition that is cross-referenced to all other Mormon scripture. "Seems like he just figured he had to say the safest, most Protestant thing he could think of—that was kind of annoying," says Russell Arben Fox, a Mormon professor of political science at Friends University in Wichita, Kans.
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You do a pretty good job of being offensive.
Verses 7 and 8 are the Johannine Comma, which I’ve already spoken about. It is well known that extra words were added hundreds of years after Christ to give more compelling evidence of the doctrine of the Trinity. Google “Johannine Comma.”
Christ explains in his intercessory prayer in the Gospel of John what it means to be “one.”
What about when Christ was baptized? God the Father spoke from Heaven, and the Holy Ghost descended as a dove. There were three personages.
That doesn’t answer my question.
I also want to point out that the administrative costs of the Gideons International are paid for entirely by the dues paid by members of the Gideons. Therefore, every dollar contributed to pay for Bibles goes to distributing Bibles without any administrative costs being taken off the top.
Which Christ?
In bearing testimony of Jesus Christ, President Hinckley spoke of those outside the Church who say Latter-day Saints "do not believe in the traditional Christ.” No, I don't. The traditional Christ of whom they speak is not the Christ of whom I speak. – Prophet Gordon B. Hinckley, LDS Church News, June 20, 1998, p.7Do you mean the Jesus Christ of the mainstream Christian Denomination, or the LDS Christ?
Can you go against the declarations of your Prophet and President?
Try google.
I did and I found it came from the noted Catholic Scholar, Tertullian and the New Prophecy of Montanus.
He was held to be a heretic for his effort, but his writing was used anyway.
One of the only organizations that I have ever joined, and for those reasons.
They reach millions all around the world, with all the money going for materials and some distribution costs to help spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ. (The Christ of mainstream denominations I might add.)
This is too easy. If I ignore you again will I get a three page diatribe??
Another PMS moment, Elsie ???
Patrician Musical Syndrome
LOL
Jesus Christ and Christ are one and the same. President Hinckley was merely stating what we all acknowledge. We are talking about the same personage, but we don’t accept some of the doctrines and creeds that have grown up around Him.
I didn’t realize that I was walking into a hornets nest. My original post was a plea that we as believers of Christ, though our doctrines my vary, should be able to set aside theological differences and support candidates who will best fight for the causes we agree are most important.
My church does not actively teach, or shout in the faces of evangelicals, that they and members of other Christian faiths are evil, wrong, or misguided. It seems that the posters that are arguing we do can only point to qoutes made over 150 years ago. The point is, that Mormons today, do not tell evangelicals they are wrong, nor do we refuse to overlook the good in them and refuse to vote for them. I am asking the same from evangelicals. Respect the person for who they are, not what church they go to.
Considering the fact that the last book in the Bible was written nearly 1800 years ago, it might be difficult to find a passage in the bible that “prov[es] the priesthood was removed from the earth to later be restored by Joseph Smith.”
Even so, I don’t understand the point of this. I can’t prove to you the truth of the Mormon religion. Nobody can. Each person has to ask God for the truth and to be guided by the holy spirit. Your request is leading us down a fruitless path.
IN JUNE 1828 JOSEPH SMITH JOINED THE METHODIST CHURCH [PROBATIONARY CLASS] IN HARMONY, PENNSYLVANIA
Joseph didn't last very long.
When the Methodist Minister, Joseph Lewis, along with Joshua McKune, another local preacher, learned Smith was convicted of fraud (see below) as a result of Smith's treasure seeking with a peep stone (see above), Smith was given the boot.
According to Lewis:
We thought it was a disgrace to the church to have a practicing necromancer, a dealer in enchantments and bleeding ghosts, in it.More about the subject, including annotations, HERE.
p.s. One more minor problem with Joseph's First Vision story.
I am a Mormon, you are an Evangelical Christian. I believe in Christ, you believe in Christ. I have different theological beliefs than you do. I am a human being, you are a human being. Christ told us to love everyone. You are a conservative, I am a conservative. Why are we having these spats and arguments? We can’t we get passed all of this and come together on the causes on which we agree? ANYONE????
Wow.
Are you easily swayed by “alleged” stories that have no evidence? Does any of this really matter to you? Even if this was true, what do you want? Do you think Joseph should have been perfect? What does any of this prove? How does this help you? Why do you spend your time on it?
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