Haven't Anti-Mormons Completely Destroyed the Credibility of Mormonism?

jefflindsay.com ^ | Nov. 5, 2006 | Jeff Lindsay

[Zakeet]

Devastating video.

Which one?

1. The video showing Mormon Beliefs?

2. The video showing the Mormon Temple Ceremony?

3. The one examining the Book of Abraham?

4. The one examining Polygamy?

I've seen links to several good ones here on Free Republic in the past few days.

[Osage Orange]

- Because the fullness of the Gospel was restored through Joseph Smith, and because one must accept the fullness of the Gospel (whether in this life or the next) in order to receive salvation, one must therefore accept Joseph Smith as a prophet in order to receive salvation.

- Salvation comes only in and through Jesus Christ. We are saved by His Grace.

WAIT!!!

You just said....I have to accept J. Smith as a prophet to get saved.....BUT then you say salvation only comes through Jesus.

WHICH IS IT!!!???

Does the word "only" mean something else to you Tant?

And you wonder why Christians don't "buy" mormonism?????

[tantiboh]

I stand by it. One cannot be saved by a gospel preached by a false prophet. If you believe that Smith was false, you therefore must believe that the Gospel he preached was false. Therefore, you cannot be saved by it. The logical reordering of this is that you must accept Smith as a prophet in order to be saved.

Too bad there are any alternatives, isn’t it? But, the good news is, you have a second chance after this life. So don’t be too hard on yourself, MHG.

As I’ve said before, I gladly own what I actually believe, and am content at being beaten over the head with it. This is one such example.

[Tennessee Nana]

Because the fullness of the Gospel was restored through Joseph Smith, and because one must accept the fullness of the Gospel (whether in this life or the next) in order to receive salvation, one must therefore accept Joseph Smith as a prophet in order to receive salvation.
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This is blasphemy...

Joseph Smith was only a con-man and a pediphile...

[MHGinTN]

“So don’t be too hard on yourself, MHG.” What??????????? Are you drinking something with alcohol in it tonight?

[tantiboh]

Osage, why are you being deliberately thick?

I said that one must accept Smith as a prophet to be saved by the Gospel which was restored through him.

I said that one is saved only through the Grace of Christ.

The two statements are in no way contradictory.

The fact that Smith restored the Gospel does not make him a source of Grace. I never intimated such a thing, and the fact that you have accused me of doing so is a demonstration of blatant misrepresentation on your part.

One more example of how the anti-Mormon twists LDS doctrine to suit his own purposes.

[tantiboh]

~”Joseph Smith was only a con-man and a pediphile...”~

Says you.

I speak with God too, you see, and He told me something different.

I’ll take his word over yours, thank you.

[tantiboh]

No, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

[MHGinTN]

You are amazingly vacuous saying, quite openly, that to receive salvation (one presumes even you understand that you aren't saved until you receive it) you must accept the peepstone sexual degenerate as a prophet. Oh! Excuse me, you said you must accept Joe Smith as a prophet in order to receive salvation. The ‘peepstone sexual degenerate’ part was a dramatization.

[MHGinTN]

I wouldn’t want you to miss this one! And this is what these poor souls actually believe!

[Tennessee Nana]

Joseph Smith was an adulterer who “married” under aged girls...

Anyone who lies about the Gospel of Jesus Christ and gets people to believe they have to have his say so in order to go to heaven is a con-man and a false “prophet”

I’m sure something told you different but it wasnt the God of the Bible...

[restornu]

Mormon Tabernacle Choir
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEAEcca9pRk

[tantiboh]

I thought I’d clarified this. I apologize.

Accepting Joseph Smith as a prophet is incidental. The prerequisite to salvation is accepting the fullness of the Gospel.

The logical consequence of that is accepting Smith as a prophet.

A = C. B = C. Therefore, B = A. According to LDS doctrine, you must accept the Gospel to receive salvation. A = C. Joseph Smith preached the Gospel. B = C. Therefore, to receive salvation, you must accept Joseph Smith as a prophet. B = A.

I cannot be more plain than that.

[tantiboh]

~”I’m sure something told you different but it wasnt the God of the Bible...”~

Well, it was the same “something” that told me that the Bible is God’s Word, and that Jesus is the Christ.

Whatever you want to call that “something.” I call it “God.” If it wasn’t, then I’m still getting pretty good advice, don’t you think?

[restornu]

Just watching pure evil unleash

The opposition is in full swing conscienceless, unconscionable, unethical, unprincipled, unscrupulous.

[Tennessee Nana]

Something told me that Joseph smith was also a serial statutory rapist, a convicted fraud, the operator of an illegal bank, an adulterer, the father of numerous bastard children, a pirate (who forced steamboats to pay him booty if they wished to pass the Mississippi River through Nauvoo), a corrupt city administrator, the owner of a saloon (in his own house, no less), a murderer, a thief, a polygamist, a compulsive liar, and a master in scamming his flock with land flips and an overpriced store.

God knew Joseph Smith even better than that so this list of his evil doings is incomplete

There is more...

[restornu]

And they in another breath said...

Jesus shed His precious blood and died in your place, just for you...

they are amazing

[Old Mountain man]

No, I won’t help your saracastic sounding “quest”.

[andysandmikesmom]

I just listened to the Mormon Tabernacle Choir, singing The Battle Hymn of the Republic, at this link that you provided, and it was really quite magnificent...thanks....

[Tennessee Nana]

I’m listening to a recording of some children singing “Jesus Loves Me”

It’s wonderful and feeds my spirit...

:)