Posted on 02/08/2008 7:52:52 AM PST by Alex Murphy
Washington DC, Feb 7, 2008 / 06:02 pm (CNA).- Catholic voters backed Republican Senator John McCain of Arizona and Democrat Senator Hillary Clinton of New York in many Super Tuesday presidential primaries and caucuses for their respective parties, according to news reports.
Deal W. Hudson of InsideCatholic.com reported that exit polling on the Catholic vote was done in 10 of the 22 GOP primary states. Of those states, Sen. McCain won over Catholics in eight while former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney, who left the presidential race on Thursday, attracted the Catholic vote only in Georgia and his home state, Massachusetts. Former Governor of Arkansas Mike Huckabee, an outspoken Evangelical Protestant, attracted little Catholic support.
In the key state of Missouri, Hudson reports, Sen. McCain won the Catholic vote by 25 points46 % to Romneys 21 %. Fifty four percent of religiously active Catholics in Missouri went for McCain, compared to 24 % who voted for Huckabee and 20 % who voted for Romney.
The Catholic vote also went to McCain in the critical California race, where he attracted 41 % of Catholic Republican voters.
Other states McCain won include Illinois, Connecticut, New Jersey, New York, Tennessee, and his home state Arizona.
Deal Hudson reports that one McCain advisor said the campaign was pleased with McCains showing in states that have experienced illegal immigrants firsthand. McCain's compassionate stance on immigration may turn out to be a plus for McCain, after all, the advisor said.
Some political observers believe that attracting the predominantly Catholic Hispanic vote could be a deciding factor in the national elections this November.
Hudson noted that McCain had strong support among pro-choice Republicans. In Missouri those favoring completely legalized abortion voted 48 % for McCain. In California, McCain received 49 % of the vote from those who want abortion to be mostly legal.
This indicates that some voters have the perception that McCain is not pro-life, which is strange given his zero percent pro-abortion rating from NARAL Pro-Choice America, Hudson said. He speculated that the senators support from these voters could fade as his record becomes better known. On the other hand, McCains perceived pro-choice sympathies could erode his support among pro-lifers.
McCains pro-life record is not totally consistent, as he has favored federal funding for embryonic stem cell research.
In the Democrat Partys California vote, the Associated Press reports, Catholic voters favored Sen. Hillary Clinton over Illinois Senator Barack Obama by a 2-1 margin. In Florida, according to Fox News, 63 % of Catholics voted for Hillary over Obama, who received 22 % of Catholic Democrats votes.
There's at least one big reason why you shouldn't...
I've never met a Calvinist who was a democrat. They may be out there, but every one I've ever read or known has been a conservative.
There're out there. Our old CRC congregation was a college church, with comparatively heavy representation of liberal arts faculty types. I eventually just stopped talking politics. They didn't grok your run of the mill Republicanism. My Lib verging on an-cap leanings were completely off their radar.
We can all agree this Republican race for President affords some pretty slim pickens.
Long live gridlock and paralysis.
How can a Catholic vote for Hillary? I don’t get it.
As it should be.
Of the present candidates, the only one I'd even consider voting for would be Huckabee.
While I do understand Coulter's remarks about Hillary and the powerful antithesis that would develop around her vs. McCain and just more of the same old lies to conservtives, I still have to ask -- who else is there?
The ostensible dilemna of whether or not a church dabbling into politics should remain tax exempt is a problem created by the unspoken assertion that the State has pre-eminence over the Church. Thus, tax-exempt status is something that must be applied for to - or withheld by - the State, in an act asserting the State's unspoken doctrine of pre-eminence.
Further, the State's tax rate on citizens is actually higher than the Old Testament's requirement of a tithe (10%) to be paid to God via the Church. And the State requires it's money to be collected first, in the form of withholding. Pre-eminence again.
The State won't stop muzzling the churches in the United States, until the State recognizes the pre-eminence of God over the State first, and the co-sovereignty of the Church over it's citizens in addition to the State's.
AMEN!
AMEN!
LOLOL. Perfect.
I can't imagine listening to that grating, scolding voice for four years. God, spare us.
"Conservative" and "Democrat" are still not antonyms in the rural South, though one would think they should be.
Plenty of Calvinist Democrats down here. Whether they are conservatives or not is a different question.
We know what makes them Democrats (besides party affiliation). What do you think makes them Calvinists (besides denominational affiliation)?
I voted Hunter in the preference primary as well. I voted Romney ("the candidate with a shot at beating Son of [mc]Cain") and Thompson delegates.
I found out today that, although Huckabee took Tennessee, Romney overwhelmingly won in Nashville. Only a few precincts went for McCain, and fewer for Huckabee.
We do? I think what makes them Democrats is mostly history and inertia.
What do you think makes them Calvinists (besides denominational affiliation)?
Trying to identify someone as a "Calvinist" is like trapping mercury, but it would seem that a high percentage of those worshipping at PCA, OPC, or "independent fundamental" Baptist churches would fit the term.
Barring that, we could simply run an exit poll asking people how they voted and how many points of TULIP they affirm. ;-)
I can see why you have trouble trapping mercury. I suggest that you use a container that doesn't have any holes in it.
And only some independent Baptists are Calvinists.
Do you really think there are no professing Calvinists who vote Democrat in the South?
Suuuuure you do!
Campion's Post #33: "And only some independent Baptists are Calvinists."
Campion's Post #31: it would seem that a high percentage of those worshipping at..."independent fundamental" Baptist churches would fit the term.
From your silence can we assume yes?
From my silence, you can assume that I'm only prosecuting one point at a time.
I see. Not up to multitasking huh?
Well I hate to bust your bubble but the fact is neither Huckabee or Paul are electable. As distasteful as it is, McCain will be the Republican nominee. As for the Democrats who knows. Theyre as screwed up as the Republicans.
So if you think no professing Calvinist will vote for McCain or a Democrat youre truly living in a bubble.
So take your pot shots at Catholic voters if you must. Heck, Ill even join you. But to pretend that wont happen is ridiculous.
Hillary believes in predestination not by the will of God revealed through the words of Scripture, but by the will of the Clinton/NYT mob as revealed through the words of her mentor, Saul Alinsky.
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