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What you saw in the "Passion of the Christ" was the real deal. That was not overblown at all.

I doubt that. I don't know how much you know about medicine, but there is something called shock from blood loss. Never mind the fact that Jesus was afterwards throwin in the dungeon and then crowned with thorns that caused additional bleeding (head bleed a great deal), and was shown chained standing all night long. Under such cirmcumstances (hypooxygenation, dehydration, hypovolemic and hypostatic shock) the kidneys and other organ functions would have simply shut down, FK.

I doubt that. I don't know how much you know about medicine, but there is something called shock from blood loss. Never mind the fact that Jesus was afterwards throwin in the dungeon and then crowned with thorns that caused additional bleeding (head bleed a great deal), and was shown chained standing all night long. Under such cirmcumstances (hypooxygenation, dehydration, hypovolemic and hypostatic shock) the kidneys and other organ functions would have simply shut down, FK.

And yet so many who underwent such treatment managed to survive for long periods on the cross that their legs had to be broken so they'd suffocate.

***I doubt that. I don’t know how much you know about medicine, but there is something called shock from blood loss. Never mind the fact that Jesus was afterwards throwin in the dungeon and then crowned with thorns that caused additional bleeding (head bleed a great deal), and was shown chained standing all night long. Under such cirmcumstances (hypooxygenation, dehydration, hypovolemic and hypostatic shock) the kidneys and other organ functions would have simply shut down, FK.***

Of course, the whole intention was to show us how impossibly much Jesus suffered - beyond anything that ordinary mortals should have been able to take. With Jesus operating out of time, He knew what He was going to go through and He prayed to the point where He sweated blood that the cup would be taken from Him.

The ordeal was impossible - but so was the ransom that He paid for us.

FK: What you saw in the "Passion of the Christ" was the real deal. That was not overblown at all.

I doubt that. I don't know how much you know about medicine, but there is something called shock from blood loss. Never mind the fact that Jesus was afterwards throwin in the dungeon and then crowned with thorns that caused additional bleeding (head bleed a great deal), and was shown chained standing all night long. Under such circumstances (hypooxygenation, dehydration, hypovolemic and hypostatic shock) the kidneys and other organ functions would have simply shut down, FK.

I have no medical expertise at all. However, I did research the class I taught on this subject as a lawyer would. From what I remember I don't "think" I have any problems with the basics of what you say above, HOWEVER, that is not determinative. Any given person MIGHT very well succumb earlier under all the given conditions (my earlier point about the ravages of scourging). So what? We maintain that God was in full control of all of it from the beginning. Therefore, the human body of Jesus was going to last as long as God determined it was going to, regardless. As Aruanan correctly pointed out, they didn't break Christ's legs because they didn't NEED to. He was already gone before the "normal" time because of all that He went through. My research showed that the vast majority of crucifixion victims lasted much longer than the generally accepted three to six hours that Jesus apparently lasted.

He COULD have lasted six weeks up there, IF that is what God had predestined. The facts on the ground, as we are given them, support my contention that He was brutally mistreated, more so than others awaiting the same fate, and so He died sooner.