[stfassisi]

FK””While God could have ordained whatever He wanted, He chose to ordain the Passion and put it into prophecy. That also ordained the evil that went with it.””

The Crucifixion was the only time that God gave man the power to do anything to Him and man CHOOSE to Crucify Him.

I think we can rightly say that Our Lord was never sick with any illness while He walked the earth. This is because He ONLY gave us one chance to do anything to Him.

His suffering was out of Love ,FK ,it was not out of evil.
He completely emptied Himself for us in extreme humility to show us that humility crushes evil and love is stronger than death

You're beginning to concern me!

[irishtenor]

***The Crucifixion was the only time that God gave man the power to do anything to Him and man CHOOSE to Crucify Him.***

Dear Saint, do you think man was able to do this without the express consent of God the Father? Do you think man can do anything without the express consent of God?

[Forest Keeper]

FK: ””While God could have ordained whatever He wanted, He chose to ordain the Passion and put it into prophecy. That also ordained the evil that went with it.””

The Crucifixion was the only time that God gave man the power to do anything to Him and man CHOOSE to Crucify Him.

REALLY??? What about the scourging, the crown of thorns, the spitting, the name calling, the false trial, etc. etc.? I have studied what Roman scourging really was and taught an adult Sunday School class on it one time. It was alternatively used by Romans as its own method of execution, but was frequently used as a precursor to crucifixion. They had a physician on site to determine how much was "too much" in order to keep the victim alive to be later crucified. What you saw in the "Passion of the Christ" was the real deal. That was not overblown at all. There were many many sins committed against Christ during this time and they were ALL ordained by God.